Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.

Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.

Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?

gosh no.

I think part of the reason for all the noise is Firefly got cancelled once and they don't want it to happen again (cancelled in this case=no trilogy). I would love for there to be two more movies. However, some people are going a bit overboard.

That said, the people bitching about "I'm so sick of hearing people on f-list talk about Firefly/Serenity" is ridiculous. No one forced them add those people to their list, no one forces them to read their posts, and no one is forcing them to keep them on their f-list. If it really bothers them that much, they should just de-friend them.

And don't get me started at the pot and kettle-ness of AICN griping about Browncoats being obnoxious on their forums.

Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.

Which is why I'm amazed they've come under special scrutiny. But I guess the national platform of the movie + genre bitterness leads to = tone-deaf proselytizing.

Again, still probably a small contingency of people acting that way, but still... loud.

I think it's also a cumulative effect. You hear a story about an incident in which a fan was a little overzealous with a box office manager about a screening. Then you hear another story about a guy who wrote a negative review about the movie and got some hate mail. Then a site closes themselves to new regs because of a small group of fans who are being irritating. After a while, people just start to make the immediate association of all Browncoats = zealots.

With that said, it's no one's shining moment here. I mean, I think that these site owners are, in many ways, exacerbating the situtation. Like, when I got the Dear Doyle Killer mail, or Allyson got the W/T email, we could have very easily fired back on the site. Written an open letter. Put up a wall of shame and posted snippets of said emails. It might have been funny for, like, a second. But, in the end, it only adds fuel to the fire and drags out the kerfluffle.

These people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.

Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?

I would say that even the so called Kittens weren't really a majority of the Kittens. But that's just what we call them now because, though they were a small segment, they were pretty mouthy.

ETA: I also don't think that this had some wide-reaching effect on the weekend BO. Did it keep some people away? Maybe. I don't think it stole $5M from the cash register.

Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.

Like I said, I have no idea what qualifies a person as a Browncoat or not. Is it just the people who belong to that website?

Really, I think the fact that the movie came in at #2 is amazing, and yay Joss. All the bitching (a la the CHUD/Whedonesque kerfluffle) is boggling me.

I have no idea what qualifies a person as a Browncoat or not.

I'm just using it as shorthand for mega fans -- not all the preview viewers were Browncoats by my definition, but most Browncoats would go to lengths to see it ASAP.

See, I'm largely insulated. If not for here (and I'm not following links, I like insulated) I wouldn't know a contingent of people were being rabid. I'd know that sure, some of us were less than in love with the movie, for various reasons. I'd know I wasn't alone in being meh and vaguely sad to see the story *I* preferred coming to an end. But that's it.

Heck, there were probably 20 people max in the theater when I saw it. And there was a little cheering at various points from one group behind me, and clapping from them at the conclusion as well. But other than that? It was just a movie.

You could argue that fanatacism is just misdirected passion. Sometimes that passion is properly directed and troops get DVDs and some homeless people get coats. That's what makes it not hilarious. More Browncoats did more good than those who didn't.

A year ago this weekend the top two movies earned $65 million (Shark Tale and Ladder 49) compared to $25 million for Flightplan and Serenity combined this year. Hard to believe all those people stayed home because they didn't want to see a movie with Browncoats. C'mon.

And now, a Variety ad: [link]

Why wouldn't you take your $10 and see the movie again? Wouldn't that be more helpful?

To me, this is an example of the craziness.

And I feel as though I can speak with some authority on this kind of insanity.

No one forced them add those people to their list, no one forces them to read their posts, and no one is forcing them to keep them on their f-list.

I don't see it very differently from christiandollarstore. Who is banned.