Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?
To be fair, I have no idea what makes someone qualify as a Browncoat. I just know that in LJ, for instance, my Friends' Friends list is full of people who are feeling betrayed by Joss, and they sound cranky.
Saffron: I'll die. Mal: Well, as a courtesy, you might start getting busy on that, 'cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.
'Trash'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Steph L. - Oct 03, 2005 5:17:26 pm PDT #5796 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
sarameg - Oct 03, 2005 5:17:37 pm PDT #5797 of 10001
The only thing that has made me not want to see a film is pervasive, can't escape, haunts my dreams marketing. But both those films were wildly popular. But I boycotted them until I was hostage to a rainy day and 2 adhd kids off meds and BORED.
But I'm not a marketer's dream client.
I think if you lose the ability to mock your own obsessions, it becomes not fun. And scares people. But those people should just ignore the scary people. Unless they are breaking into your house, of course.
But then, I'm contrary.
Allyson - Oct 03, 2005 5:18:27 pm PDT #5798 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 5:19:20 pm PDT #5799 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?
Allyson - Oct 03, 2005 5:21:03 pm PDT #5800 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
gosh no.
Kalshane - Oct 03, 2005 5:21:33 pm PDT #5801 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I think part of the reason for all the noise is Firefly got cancelled once and they don't want it to happen again (cancelled in this case=no trilogy). I would love for there to be two more movies. However, some people are going a bit overboard.
That said, the people bitching about "I'm so sick of hearing people on f-list talk about Firefly/Serenity" is ridiculous. No one forced them add those people to their list, no one forces them to read their posts, and no one is forcing them to keep them on their f-list. If it really bothers them that much, they should just de-friend them.
And don't get me started at the pot and kettle-ness of AICN griping about Browncoats being obnoxious on their forums.
bon bon - Oct 03, 2005 5:22:05 pm PDT #5802 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Which is why I'm amazed they've come under special scrutiny. But I guess the national platform of the movie + genre bitterness leads to = tone-deaf proselytizing.
Kristen - Oct 03, 2005 5:22:45 pm PDT #5803 of 10001
Again, still probably a small contingency of people acting that way, but still... loud.
I think it's also a cumulative effect. You hear a story about an incident in which a fan was a little overzealous with a box office manager about a screening. Then you hear another story about a guy who wrote a negative review about the movie and got some hate mail. Then a site closes themselves to new regs because of a small group of fans who are being irritating. After a while, people just start to make the immediate association of all Browncoats = zealots.
With that said, it's no one's shining moment here. I mean, I think that these site owners are, in many ways, exacerbating the situtation. Like, when I got the Dear Doyle Killer mail, or Allyson got the W/T email, we could have very easily fired back on the site. Written an open letter. Put up a wall of shame and posted snippets of said emails. It might have been funny for, like, a second. But, in the end, it only adds fuel to the fire and drags out the kerfluffle.
These people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?
I would say that even the so called Kittens weren't really a majority of the Kittens. But that's just what we call them now because, though they were a small segment, they were pretty mouthy.
ETA: I also don't think that this had some wide-reaching effect on the weekend BO. Did it keep some people away? Maybe. I don't think it stole $5M from the cash register.
Steph L. - Oct 03, 2005 5:23:15 pm PDT #5804 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.
Like I said, I have no idea what qualifies a person as a Browncoat or not. Is it just the people who belong to that website?
Really, I think the fact that the movie came in at #2 is amazing, and yay Joss. All the bitching (a la the CHUD/Whedonesque kerfluffle) is boggling me.
§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 5:24:28 pm PDT #5805 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I have no idea what qualifies a person as a Browncoat or not.
I'm just using it as shorthand for mega fans -- not all the preview viewers were Browncoats by my definition, but most Browncoats would go to lengths to see it ASAP.