and the thing I kept returning to in my head is that the “Browncoats” are seen, by many other genre fans, as overzealous.
So fans of Firefly are keeping Trekkies from seeing "Serenity"? Anime fans are so put off by the Browncoats that they're staying home and watching Cowboy Bebop?
If a movie -- any movie, but let's go with "Serenity" -- were relying solely on genre fans turning out to see it in order to make big box office, I'd say that movie is screwed from the start.
That quote at the beginning of my post implies that "Serenity" will fail if other genre fans stay away. And I'm thinking the CHUD guy who wrote that is missing the part where fandom makes up a teeeeeeeeny tiny part of the moviegoing public.
Browncoats are starting to scare me. The handwringing over the box office is making me nuts. A. Movie. Got. Made. And. Released. From this canceled television show. But that's not enough. There must be sequels and legos and collectible cups at burger king, or we've all failed Joss.
Who's going to see the sequels? I've read so. damn. many. posts about how Joss BETRAYED the fans by killing Wash -- why would they go see a sequel? I don't get it.
I've read so. damn. many. posts about how Joss BETRAYED the fans by killing Wash -- why would they go see a sequel?
Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion? I live in a cave, it seems, because the Browncoat hysteria, while perfectly predictable, seems to have passed me by. But I was guessing that they were loving on the movie and hard. Just because.
Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?
To be fair, I have no idea what makes someone qualify as a Browncoat. I just know that in LJ, for instance, my Friends' Friends list is full of people who are feeling betrayed by Joss, and they sound cranky.
The only thing that has made me not want to see a film is pervasive, can't escape,
haunts my dreams
marketing. But both those films were wildly popular. But I boycotted them until I was hostage to a rainy day and 2 adhd kids off meds and BORED.
But I'm not a marketer's dream client.
I think if you lose the ability to mock your own obsessions, it becomes not fun. And scares people. But those people should just ignore the scary people. Unless they are breaking into your house, of course.
But then, I'm contrary.
Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?
I think part of the reason for all the noise is Firefly got cancelled once and they don't want it to happen again (cancelled in this case=no trilogy). I would love for there to be two more movies. However, some people are going a bit overboard.
That said, the people bitching about "I'm so sick of hearing people on f-list talk about Firefly/Serenity" is ridiculous. No one forced them add those people to their list, no one forces them to read their posts, and no one is forcing them to keep them on their f-list. If it really bothers them that much, they should just de-friend them.
And don't get me started at the pot and kettle-ness of AICN griping about Browncoats being obnoxious on their forums.
Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Which is why I'm amazed they've come under special scrutiny. But I guess the national platform of the movie + genre bitterness leads to = tone-deaf proselytizing.
Again, still probably a small contingency of people acting that way, but still... loud.
I think it's also a cumulative effect. You hear a story about an incident in which a fan was a little overzealous with a box office manager about a screening. Then you hear another story about a guy who wrote a negative review about the movie and got some hate mail. Then a site closes themselves to new regs because of a small group of fans who are being irritating. After a while, people just start to make the immediate association of all Browncoats = zealots.
With that said, it's no one's shining moment here. I mean, I think that these site owners are, in many ways, exacerbating the situtation. Like, when I got the Dear Doyle Killer mail, or Allyson got the W/T email, we could have very easily fired back on the site. Written an open letter. Put up a wall of shame and posted snippets of said emails. It might have been funny for, like, a second. But, in the end, it only adds fuel to the fire and drags out the kerfluffle.
These people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.
Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?
I would say that even the so called Kittens weren't really a majority of the Kittens. But that's just what we call them now because, though they were a small segment, they were pretty mouthy.
ETA: I also don't think that this had some wide-reaching effect on the weekend BO. Did it keep some people away? Maybe. I don't think it stole $5M from the cash register.
