I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 28, 2005 8:00:52 am PDT #3822 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I can see how people would see them as visually similar, because it's the same studio doing the effects shots (including putting a cameo of Serenity in the mini-series).

Is BSG doing sound or no-sound in space?


tommyrot - Jul 28, 2005 8:03:01 am PDT #3823 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is BSG doing sound or no-sound in space?

Very little sound. (i.e. muted.) They considered doing no sound, but felt it was too distracting, with all the space battles they have.


JenP - Jul 28, 2005 8:03:59 am PDT #3824 of 10001

I can see how people would see them as visually similar

Oh, me, too. But the leap from that to "he got the idea from Joss" is what I'm talking about as making me twitchy. The effects people using a similar style to what they used in Firefly makes perfect sense to me given that BSG also uses the docu-style shooting, and that they put in that shot of Serenity, I found utterly charming.

[edited out; needlessly saying the same thing twice]


Strega - Jul 28, 2005 8:33:39 am PDT #3825 of 10001

What Jen said. I wouldn't be shocked if R&D had Zoic do the FX because by then they'd already demonstrated that they could do the handheld style. But the fact that the two shows have a similar visual style does not mean that one of them directly influenced the other.


Mr. Broom - Jul 28, 2005 11:37:26 am PDT #3826 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Yeah, that's the same logic people apply to the "Firefly is a Cowboy Bebop ripoff" argument. After which, therefore because of doesn't work.


Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 12:16:46 pm PDT #3827 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Well, I think the "BSG is ripping off Firefly" mess started because the press release about BSG came out around or shortly after Firefly's cancellation, so reading this document touting all these stylistic choices as being "ground-breaking" and "never done before" worked up a lot of fans' ire. At the time the pain of losing the show was still fresh and I don't think anyone was thinking clearly enough to research when BSG had actually been concieved.

There's no point in crying about it nowadays, though.


Polter-Cow - Jul 28, 2005 1:08:19 pm PDT #3828 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ooh, look, spilled milk!


UTTAD - Jul 28, 2005 1:11:01 pm PDT #3829 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

I'm off to cry.


bon bon - Jul 28, 2005 1:12:36 pm PDT #3830 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I remember that press release. We mocked it heartily!


Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 1:35:13 pm PDT #3831 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That we did. And I don't think anyone thought to ask "How long has this been in development?" We were all just "What to do they mean, original!?!?" and "Will there be capes?"