Yeah, that's the same logic people apply to the "Firefly is a Cowboy Bebop ripoff" argument. After which, therefore because of doesn't work.
Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!
'Shindig'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Mr. Broom - Jul 28, 2005 11:37:26 am PDT #3826 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 12:16:46 pm PDT #3827 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Well, I think the "BSG is ripping off Firefly" mess started because the press release about BSG came out around or shortly after Firefly's cancellation, so reading this document touting all these stylistic choices as being "ground-breaking" and "never done before" worked up a lot of fans' ire. At the time the pain of losing the show was still fresh and I don't think anyone was thinking clearly enough to research when BSG had actually been concieved.
There's no point in crying about it nowadays, though.
Polter-Cow - Jul 28, 2005 1:08:19 pm PDT #3828 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Ooh, look, spilled milk!
UTTAD - Jul 28, 2005 1:11:01 pm PDT #3829 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
I'm off to cry.
bon bon - Jul 28, 2005 1:12:36 pm PDT #3830 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I remember that press release. We mocked it heartily!
Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 1:35:13 pm PDT #3831 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
That we did. And I don't think anyone thought to ask "How long has this been in development?" We were all just "What to do they mean, original!?!?" and "Will there be capes?"
§ ita § - Jul 28, 2005 1:36:34 pm PDT #3832 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's not that original if it didn't come first. I mean, he might have thought of it first (I have no idea), but he didn't get to market first.
However, not being original doesn't mean it's a copy.
KernelM - Jul 28, 2005 2:27:59 pm PDT #3833 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World
Good on Nathan, I say. I've been reading up on this Darryl guy and his stores and he deserves all the fallout he might get from this. Gouging, lying, and being rude are not ways to run your business. Nor is, for example, taking products out of a customer's hand to mark them up (story relayed on another board).
Strega - Jul 28, 2005 2:45:36 pm PDT #3834 of 10001
I've never seen them use "original" to describe Galactica, except as in "original programming," since it is, after all, a remake.
I'd love a link to the press release that caused all the outrage, though, if it's still around. The only one I've found is from April 2002, in which they (questionably) describe the 1970's series as ground-breaking and innovative.
tommyrot - Jul 28, 2005 3:14:59 pm PDT #3835 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The only one I've found is from April 2002, in which they (questionably) describe the 1970's series as ground-breaking and innovative.
Had any scifi movie or TV show featured a robot dog before?