A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


bon bon - Jul 28, 2005 1:12:36 pm PDT #3830 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I remember that press release. We mocked it heartily!


Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 1:35:13 pm PDT #3831 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That we did. And I don't think anyone thought to ask "How long has this been in development?" We were all just "What to do they mean, original!?!?" and "Will there be capes?"


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2005 1:36:34 pm PDT #3832 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not that original if it didn't come first. I mean, he might have thought of it first (I have no idea), but he didn't get to market first.

However, not being original doesn't mean it's a copy.


KernelM - Jul 28, 2005 2:27:59 pm PDT #3833 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Good on Nathan, I say. I've been reading up on this Darryl guy and his stores and he deserves all the fallout he might get from this. Gouging, lying, and being rude are not ways to run your business. Nor is, for example, taking products out of a customer's hand to mark them up (story relayed on another board).


Strega - Jul 28, 2005 2:45:36 pm PDT #3834 of 10001

I've never seen them use "original" to describe Galactica, except as in "original programming," since it is, after all, a remake.

I'd love a link to the press release that caused all the outrage, though, if it's still around. The only one I've found is from April 2002, in which they (questionably) describe the 1970's series as ground-breaking and innovative.


tommyrot - Jul 28, 2005 3:14:59 pm PDT #3835 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The only one I've found is from April 2002, in which they (questionably) describe the 1970's series as ground-breaking and innovative.

Had any scifi movie or TV show featured a robot dog before?


Kalshane - Jul 28, 2005 3:21:17 pm PDT #3836 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Found an article that contains it (It's in the gray box):

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ETA: On re-read, it still ticks me off. Whether he was developing this before Firefly or not, the fact that he claims "this has never been done before in Sci-Fi" and most of his points are things Firefly was doing/had just done makes him sound like a pompous ass, regardless of whether he decided to do this before Firefly aired or not.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 28, 2005 3:21:39 pm PDT #3837 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Had any scifi movie or TV show featured a robot dog before?

Doctor Who.


DCJensen - Jul 28, 2005 3:25:02 pm PDT #3838 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I guess I believed the SFX guys whenthey were interviewed about the effects in Firefly. They were saying Joss was pushing them to be sloppier, and it really helped that he was open to that.

Then the same team did the BSG miniseries sfx and the BSG press mentioned above kind of made me twitch.


Polter-Cow - Jul 28, 2005 4:06:46 pm PDT #3839 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Another way to challenge the audience visually will be our extensive use of the multi-split screen format. By combining multiple angles during dogfights, for example, we will be able to present an entirely new take on what has become a tired and familiar sequence that has not changed materially since George Lucas established it in the mid 1970s.

Hey! He totally didn't do that! I want my multi-split screen dogfights, dammit!