Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
I can see how people would see them as visually similar
Oh, me, too. But the leap from that to "he got the idea from Joss" is what I'm talking about as making me twitchy. The effects people using a similar style to what they used in Firefly makes perfect sense to me given that BSG also uses the docu-style shooting, and that they put in that shot of Serenity, I found utterly charming.
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What Jen said. I wouldn't be shocked if R&D had Zoic do the FX because by then they'd already demonstrated that they could do the handheld style. But the fact that the two shows have a similar visual style does not mean that one of them directly influenced the other.
Yeah, that's the same logic people apply to the "Firefly is a Cowboy Bebop ripoff" argument. After which, therefore because of doesn't work.
Well, I think the "BSG is ripping off Firefly" mess started because the press release about BSG came out around or shortly after Firefly's cancellation, so reading this document touting all these stylistic choices as being "ground-breaking" and "never done before" worked up a lot of fans' ire. At the time the pain of losing the show was still fresh and I don't think anyone was thinking clearly enough to research when BSG had actually been concieved.
There's no point in crying about it nowadays, though.
Ooh, look, spilled milk!
I'm off to cry.
I remember that press release. We mocked it heartily!
That we did. And I don't think anyone thought to ask "How long has this been in development?" We were all just "What to do they mean, original!?!?" and "Will there be capes?"
It's not that original if it didn't come first. I mean, he might have thought of it first (I have no idea), but he didn't get to market first.
However, not being original doesn't mean it's a copy.
Good on Nathan, I say. I've been reading up on this Darryl guy and his stores and he deserves all the fallout he might get from this. Gouging, lying, and being rude are not ways to run your business. Nor is, for example, taking products out of a customer's hand to mark them up (story relayed on another board).