Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.

Xander ,'Sleeper'


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deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 7:21:36 pm PST #3692 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

yep!


deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 7:22:12 pm PST #3693 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Kristin, I'm on: debgrabien


Pix - Jan 12, 2005 7:22:27 pm PST #3694 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

...yahoo IM?


beth b - Jan 12, 2005 7:22:30 pm PST #3695 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

picture 3 -- is so jess> That's the look I always think of her having...

know I have only in kenya in my head....


deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 7:23:29 pm PST #3696 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh! No, I don't know how to get to yahoo IM - I'm on AIM.


beth b - Jan 12, 2005 7:36:29 pm PST #3697 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

congrates on the apt. sj!


Ginger - Jan 12, 2005 7:54:39 pm PST #3698 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Deb, I assume you know that there are two books about filming the African Queen in Africa in 1951. It was filmed in Uganda and the Congo, though.


libkitty - Jan 12, 2005 7:56:03 pm PST #3699 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I assume you tried terms like "mau mau" in google? That one came up with some interesting things. Also, if you go to the library, you might want to try the Readers Guide to Periodical Literature for 1954-55. I know using paper seems passe, but it might work. Also, you might try something like a New York Times archive. This may also be available at SF Public. If they don't have it, you might be able to access it at one of the UC libraries.


deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 8:21:21 pm PST #3700 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Ginger, I had all the AQ filming info, including Bogie's lovely rant. This is three years later, though, other coast, and a very different political climate.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2005 8:25:25 pm PST #3701 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the extremely privileged have NO SHAME AT ALL

Gimme a little time, and I can find you po' folk without shame. Also middle classed people with no shame, maybe some upper, some lower -- money doesn't force you to buy or discard shame, and why should it? I bet I could also find privileged people who are kind, gracious and wonderful people.

I think it's sad what some people will do if they can get away with it -- but privilege doesn't make you those people, and its lack doesn't mean you won't act the ass.