Remember that sex we were planning to have, ever again?

Zoe ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 21 Gunn Salute  

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deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 8:21:21 pm PST #3700 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Ginger, I had all the AQ filming info, including Bogie's lovely rant. This is three years later, though, other coast, and a very different political climate.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2005 8:25:25 pm PST #3701 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the extremely privileged have NO SHAME AT ALL

Gimme a little time, and I can find you po' folk without shame. Also middle classed people with no shame, maybe some upper, some lower -- money doesn't force you to buy or discard shame, and why should it? I bet I could also find privileged people who are kind, gracious and wonderful people.

I think it's sad what some people will do if they can get away with it -- but privilege doesn't make you those people, and its lack doesn't mean you won't act the ass.


deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 8:29:55 pm PST #3702 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

ita, I'm with you. I know some shameless mofos in all walks of life.

Thing is, the po' folk rarely have the power to do mass damage with their shamelessness. When you add money and power to the privilege and lack of shame, it gets awfully ugly.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2005 8:31:46 pm PST #3703 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is true. It's easier to get away with stuff when you're richer than God. But I don't think it makes you a worse person.


deborah grabien - Jan 12, 2005 8:38:48 pm PST #3704 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, I wasn't making the value judgement. Just the fact that shameless with money and a gun is faster-acting than shameless with nothing but 'tude.


Astarte - Jan 12, 2005 9:44:28 pm PST #3705 of 10002
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Yay for new apts.

And laughing madly at baby peeing...


vw bug - Jan 13, 2005 1:38:10 am PST #3706 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

Yay for sj apartment! Boo for the accident and long day. I hope you're sleeping well.

Um...I had more stuff. Um...I should take better notes. Oh, yeah! I LOVE Jessica's new haircut. And I promise I'll post pictures of mine today. It's even on my to-do list.

Timelies!

I want to still be asleep. My body has different plans...and has had those plans for several hours. Grrrrr...


WindSparrow - Jan 13, 2005 2:28:24 am PST #3707 of 10002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

The great thing about baby-peeing stories? Embarassing a petulant teenager in front of their friends a decade-plus later. At least that's why I think parents do that, to get a little of their own back.

Sits vw's body down next to my cat, for a little talk about the value of sleep.


Stephanie - Jan 13, 2005 3:10:21 am PST #3708 of 10002
Trust my rage

I think dogs are great practice for all the pooing and peeing. In the 4 years we've had our two, I've been pee'd on twice and cleaned up more puke and poop than I can remember. At least the baby stuff should be smaller in quantity.


Cashmere - Jan 13, 2005 3:13:00 am PST #3709 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

At least the baby stuff should be smaller in quantity.

Not always.

The boy and I both slept over 10 hours last night--uninterrupted. This is heavenly.