ID4 was thoughtful....
It made you think how easy it would be to overthrow a massive alien invasion if their ships ran on MacOS.
You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.
River ,'Objects In Space'
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Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 11:17:59 am PDT #920 of 10001
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Gandalfe - Jul 19, 2004 11:18:01 am PDT #921 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
I'd also put the Matrix trilogy on the "thoughtful" list.
The first one, certainly.
I guess by thoughtful, I mean more that there was thought put into it than anything else. Really worked on, instead of just slapped together.
§ ita § - Jul 19, 2004 11:18:57 am PDT #922 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think Reign of Fire is a thoughtful commentary on post-colonial international relations.
I don't know if it's that on purpose, but hey. Shouldn't have released the movie if you didn't want me to have a reaction to it.
Does Fahrenheit 451 count? Logan's Run, too?
DXMachina - Jul 19, 2004 11:20:29 am PDT #923 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
How about The Day the Earth Stood Still, or Forbidden Planet?
x-post with Tom.
§ ita § - Jul 19, 2004 11:22:21 am PDT #924 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, that kind of thoughtful.
I haven't seen AI, but it seems it fits the bill. And Existenz.
Scrappy - Jul 19, 2004 11:22:34 am PDT #925 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
tommyrot - Jul 19, 2004 11:23:32 am PDT #926 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Santa Clause vs. the Martians
Jessica - Jul 19, 2004 11:23:43 am PDT #927 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I guess by thoughtful, I mean more that there was thought put into it than anything else. Really worked on, instead of just slapped together.
Ah, okay. I was thinking more in terms of "idea"-sci-fi versus action-sci-fi.
And does that mean that trainwrecks like Dune (David Lynch/Alan Smithee, not the miniseries) go on the list? There was clearly a lot of work and thought put into it, crack-addled though it may have been.
(That definition would also seem to cover Minority Report and AI.)
Also, the original Star Wars trilogy -- not an "idea" movie by any stretch, but definitely not slapped together.
A Clockwork Orange, I think, fits under both.
Aims - Jul 19, 2004 11:24:09 am PDT #928 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I think a lot about Annie.
Nutty - Jul 19, 2004 11:25:57 am PDT #929 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think there is a certain silliness quotient that disallows an otherwise "thoughtful" movie from being officially thoughtful. That quotient is decidedly achieved by Logan's Run; also any futuristic dystopia starring Charlton Heston.
I think giant irradiated bug movies achieve the silliness quotient as well, even though taken as a whole they could be considered a form of nuclear-anxiety social commentary.