Santa Clause vs. the Martians
Two steaming cups of chocolate goodness. Courtesy of whomever I swiped it from out of the cupboard.
Ben ,'The Killer In Me'
Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned
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tommyrot - Jul 19, 2004 11:23:32 am PDT #926 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Jessica - Jul 19, 2004 11:23:43 am PDT #927 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I guess by thoughtful, I mean more that there was thought put into it than anything else. Really worked on, instead of just slapped together.
Ah, okay. I was thinking more in terms of "idea"-sci-fi versus action-sci-fi.
And does that mean that trainwrecks like Dune (David Lynch/Alan Smithee, not the miniseries) go on the list? There was clearly a lot of work and thought put into it, crack-addled though it may have been.
(That definition would also seem to cover Minority Report and AI.)
Also, the original Star Wars trilogy -- not an "idea" movie by any stretch, but definitely not slapped together.
A Clockwork Orange, I think, fits under both.
Aims - Jul 19, 2004 11:24:09 am PDT #928 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I think a lot about Annie.
Nutty - Jul 19, 2004 11:25:57 am PDT #929 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think there is a certain silliness quotient that disallows an otherwise "thoughtful" movie from being officially thoughtful. That quotient is decidedly achieved by Logan's Run; also any futuristic dystopia starring Charlton Heston.
I think giant irradiated bug movies achieve the silliness quotient as well, even though taken as a whole they could be considered a form of nuclear-anxiety social commentary.
Beverly - Jul 19, 2004 11:26:29 am PDT #930 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
How much do I love Fahrenheit 451? So much that I've sort of been holding my breath a bit and chanting a mantra that nobody does a rehash. Er, remake. To my mind, Oskar Werner and Julie Christie and b/w are the One True Version.
I still look at my PC and my posting boards and remember the interactive wall-ongoing "family".
And look what I found. sob.
tommyrot - Jul 19, 2004 11:26:49 am PDT #931 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The Angry Red Planet.
It makes you think what might happen if Mars got mad at us.
Anyway, I think there are lots of "thoughtful" sci-fi movies....
§ ita § - Jul 19, 2004 11:29:15 am PDT #932 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Beverly, look:
Darabont, who will direct the film for Castle Rock, says that Mel Gibson will still be part of the project, but only as a producer.
Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 11:33:10 am PDT #933 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
How much do I love Fahrenheit 451? So much that I've sort of been holding my breath a bit and chanting a mantra that nobody does a rehash. Er, remake.
Okay, I haven't looked at ita's link yet, so I don't know how scary it is, but if ever there was a time to attempt a decent remake of this film, right now is it. We could use a movie with a really good message like 451.
Astarte - Jul 19, 2004 11:35:34 am PDT #934 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
Darabont about Gibson "he's a sweet man."
At least until you suggest his fictionalized homoerotic version of the cruxifiction shouldn't be taken as history.
t /hypergibsonbole
Nutty - Jul 19, 2004 11:38:45 am PDT #935 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think you are not allowed to call someone "a sweet man" after said man has fantasized in print about killing another person's dog. (That of Frank Rich, whose reply was, "I don't have a dog.")
Then again, I don't think I trust Frank Darabon't idea of what is and is not sweet. He probably thinks jalapenos are sweet; certainly he likes to pile on the syrup pretty thick in his own movies.