I guess by thoughtful, I mean more that there was thought put into it than anything else. Really worked on, instead of just slapped together.
Ah, okay. I was thinking more in terms of "idea"-sci-fi versus action-sci-fi.
And does that mean that trainwrecks like Dune (David Lynch/Alan Smithee, not the miniseries) go on the list? There was clearly a lot of work and thought put into it, crack-addled though it may have been.
(That definition would also seem to cover Minority Report and AI.)
Also, the original Star Wars trilogy -- not an "idea" movie by any stretch, but definitely not slapped together.
A Clockwork Orange, I think, fits under both.
I think a lot about Annie.
I think there is a certain silliness quotient that disallows an otherwise "thoughtful" movie from being officially thoughtful. That quotient is decidedly achieved by
Logan's Run;
also any futuristic dystopia starring Charlton Heston.
I think giant irradiated bug movies achieve the silliness quotient as well, even though taken as a whole they could be considered a form of nuclear-anxiety social commentary.
How much do I love Fahrenheit 451? So much that I've sort of been holding my breath a bit and chanting a mantra that nobody does a rehash. Er, remake. To my mind, Oskar Werner and Julie Christie and b/w are the One True Version.
I still look at my PC and my posting boards and remember the interactive wall-ongoing "family".
And look what I found. sob.
The Angry Red Planet.
It makes you think what might happen if Mars got mad at us.
Anyway, I think there are lots of "thoughtful" sci-fi movies....
How much do I love Fahrenheit 451? So much that I've sort of been holding my breath a bit and chanting a mantra that nobody does a rehash. Er, remake.
Okay, I haven't looked at ita's link yet, so I don't know how scary it is, but if ever there was a time to attempt a decent remake of this film, right now is it. We could use a movie with a really good message like 451.
Darabont about Gibson "he's a sweet man."
At least until you suggest his fictionalized homoerotic version of the cruxifiction shouldn't be taken as history.
t /hypergibsonbole
I think you are not allowed to call someone "a sweet man" after said man has fantasized in print about killing another person's dog. (That of Frank Rich, whose reply was, "I don't have a dog.")
Then again, I don't think I trust Frank Darabon't idea of what is and is not sweet. He probably thinks jalapenos are sweet; certainly he likes to pile on the syrup pretty thick in his own movies.
Well, I'm heartened that Gibson is apparently keeping his sticky fingers off it, except for producing (which, can influence mightily).
I just think the '66 version is a perfect film, small, personal, quiet, and very very affecting. I can't relate Montag's story to big-screen More!Fire!Effects!
I'm being a brat, aren't I? '66 is one of my most favorite films, one that affected me deeply the first time I saw it as a child, and every time I've seen it since. It means so much with the very reserved performance Werner gave, because he had this huge secret to keep.
And yes, I've often thought about which book I'd like to be, walking in the forest reciting it from memory.
It will probably be a very successful moneymaking movie. I'll just stay home and watch the b/w version again.
