I'm 17. Looking at linoleum makes me want to have sex.

Xander ,'First Date'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 04, 2004 6:38:12 am PST #6688 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Beej, the only thing I can think of is the Cliffhangers anthology TV series from 1979 with Michael Nouri as Dracula. Could that be it?


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 7:08:35 am PST #6689 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's great that a black actor who's never opened a movie is considered a flagship of the American attack on world culture. If I halfway believed it, I'd be tickled...well, not pink.

Definition question: What's the sensation generated by the scene in The Incredibles when the family reunites in the forest and strikes that pose? It was mentioned in a USA Today article as a crypoint, and just the mention of it gave me resonant shivers. But I don't have a word for the emotion it called up.


DXMachina - Dec 04, 2004 7:28:44 am PST #6690 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Certainly not a cry point for me. I think an equivalent moment might be the climax of "Into the Fire" in OMWF, where Buffy kicks in the door to the Bronze, sort of a pump-your-fist-in-the-air-YEAH! moment. I dunno, is that exultation?


Steph L. - Dec 04, 2004 7:41:31 am PST #6691 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I was thinking exultation. Kind of a "HELL yeah!" moment.


Scrappy - Dec 04, 2004 8:01:39 am PST #6692 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I don't think Renee Zellweger "stole" Bridget Jones any more than Hugh Jackman "stole" Wolverine. Film is an international medium and films are cast with an eye to pulling in audiences with as wide a net as possible. In terms of looking abroad, it partially has to do with where the product is. My Brother lives in Holland, and they have a lot of British shows on there--although I know British TV has no Dutch television shows. Is that a slap in the face to Dutch culture or does it have to do with the relative size of the telvision industry in both cultures? I don't think England is engaging in cultural imperialism when they regularly take Dutch game shows (and so do we here in America, for that matter) and remake them in English. Do you?


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:03:15 am PST #6693 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?

Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph? Or do you recognise it as a different sort of emotional moment?


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:05:58 am PST #6694 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, and let's forget imperialism and border wars for a moment -- Hugh Jackman stole Wolverine from the short people.

Did Nicole Kidman and Jude Law steal Cold Mountain from Americans? Did shooting it in Europe steal it from Americans? Or is it only stealing if a lot of your colleagues do it? Otherwise it's just you showing a remarkable adaptive (and dare I say it -- acting) ability?


Scrappy - Dec 04, 2004 8:07:29 am PST #6695 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Did Naveen Andrews steal Sayid from an Iraqi actor?


Steph L. - Dec 04, 2004 8:09:11 am PST #6696 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph?

I think it depends on how emotionally invested I am in the characters/their story. For instance, in "Chosen," I *still* get weepy at the baseball!Slayer, no matter how many times I've seen it. And while I really liked The Incredibles, I wasn't really invested in it, and I don't know if that's because it's animated, or what.


DXMachina - Dec 04, 2004 8:10:15 am PST #6697 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?

I can't think of any.