I was thinking exultation. Kind of a "HELL yeah!" moment.
I'm going to see to Wesley, see if he's still whimpering.
Giles ,'Chosen'
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Steph L. - Dec 04, 2004 7:41:31 am PST #6691 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Scrappy - Dec 04, 2004 8:01:39 am PST #6692 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I don't think Renee Zellweger "stole" Bridget Jones any more than Hugh Jackman "stole" Wolverine. Film is an international medium and films are cast with an eye to pulling in audiences with as wide a net as possible. In terms of looking abroad, it partially has to do with where the product is. My Brother lives in Holland, and they have a lot of British shows on there--although I know British TV has no Dutch television shows. Is that a slap in the face to Dutch culture or does it have to do with the relative size of the telvision industry in both cultures? I don't think England is engaging in cultural imperialism when they regularly take Dutch game shows (and so do we here in America, for that matter) and remake them in English. Do you?
§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:03:15 am PST #6693 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?
Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph? Or do you recognise it as a different sort of emotional moment?
§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:05:58 am PST #6694 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, and let's forget imperialism and border wars for a moment -- Hugh Jackman stole Wolverine from the short people.
Did Nicole Kidman and Jude Law steal Cold Mountain from Americans? Did shooting it in Europe steal it from Americans? Or is it only stealing if a lot of your colleagues do it? Otherwise it's just you showing a remarkable adaptive (and dare I say it -- acting) ability?
Scrappy - Dec 04, 2004 8:07:29 am PST #6695 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Did Naveen Andrews steal Sayid from an Iraqi actor?
Steph L. - Dec 04, 2004 8:09:11 am PST #6696 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph?
I think it depends on how emotionally invested I am in the characters/their story. For instance, in "Chosen," I *still* get weepy at the baseball!Slayer, no matter how many times I've seen it. And while I really liked The Incredibles, I wasn't really invested in it, and I don't know if that's because it's animated, or what.
DXMachina - Dec 04, 2004 8:10:15 am PST #6697 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?
I can't think of any.
DXMachina - Dec 04, 2004 8:13:07 am PST #6698 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Hugh Jackman stole Wolverine from the short people.
I was watching X2 over Thanksgiving, and I found myself wondering if Famke Janssen was standing on a box for some of her scenes with Jackman, because she looked taller than him.
Scrappy - Dec 04, 2004 8:13:16 am PST #6699 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I get weepy at very specific triggers. People in peril does not do it, people dying does not do it--people making a good choice, THAT does it. For example, in GLory when they are marching to the battle and the guy shouts "Give 'em hell, 57" and all the men start saying it--finally recognizing these men as soldiers--I cry every time. The actual battle, not so much.
§ ita § - Dec 04, 2004 8:14:24 am PST #6700 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
See, I don't think that exultation should be weepy. Yet, those moments that seem all exulty get me weepy harder than most people.
That moment in The Incredibles sure got me, as well as when Violet realised she could -- empowerment exultation, I guess. People cry at happy endings, I guess. This is like that, except happy endings (or sad ones) don't do it for me. Middles do.