Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?

Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph? Or do you recognise it as a different sort of emotional moment?

Oh, and let's forget imperialism and border wars for a moment -- Hugh Jackman stole Wolverine from the short people.

Did Nicole Kidman and Jude Law steal Cold Mountain from Americans? Did shooting it in Europe steal it from Americans? Or is it only stealing if a lot of your colleagues do it? Otherwise it's just you showing a remarkable adaptive (and dare I say it -- acting) ability?

Did Naveen Andrews steal Sayid from an Iraqi actor?

Does that sort of exultation make you feel weepy, Steph?

I think it depends on how emotionally invested I am in the characters/their story. For instance, in "Chosen," I *still* get weepy at the baseball!Slayer, no matter how many times I've seen it. And while I really liked The Incredibles, I wasn't really invested in it, and I don't know if that's because it's animated, or what.

Did you have any crypoints, DX? Or moments you recognised as such?

I can't think of any.

Hugh Jackman stole Wolverine from the short people.

I was watching X2 over Thanksgiving, and I found myself wondering if Famke Janssen was standing on a box for some of her scenes with Jackman, because she looked taller than him.

I get weepy at very specific triggers. People in peril does not do it, people dying does not do it--people making a good choice, THAT does it. For example, in GLory when they are marching to the battle and the guy shouts "Give 'em hell, 57" and all the men start saying it--finally recognizing these men as soldiers--I cry every time. The actual battle, not so much.

See, I don't think that exultation should be weepy. Yet, those moments that seem all exulty get me weepy harder than most people.

That moment in The Incredibles sure got me, as well as when Violet realised she could -- empowerment exultation, I guess. People cry at happy endings, I guess. This is like that, except happy endings (or sad ones) don't do it for me. Middles do.

she looked taller than him.

She's big, but damn. That'd be huge.

For example, in GLory when they are marching to the battle and the guy shouts "Give 'em hell, 57" and all the men start saying it--finally recognizing these men as soldiers--I cry every time.

That made me tear up just reading it.

The actual battle, not so much.

It does for me. Actual battles do, and for meta- reasons. People in wars die, and the reasons are rarely good enough to throw flesh at. Even the crappiest filmed battle will send me off into the playground of my own prior knowledge.

Catching up from yesterday.....

On Aaron Sorkin's comments on the martini: Since the discussion was about Bond, and movie Bond in particular, who drinks vodka martinis, all the comments about gin martinis were basically irrelevant, so his comment about not shaking the martini so as not to chip the ice was not as wildly off base as the dicussion was treating.

They may still have been a little left field, but not so utterly talking out of his ass as it seemed.

Which is not to say Aaron Sorkin doesn't talk out of his ass in his writing, just to say that if you're going to take him to task over something, make sure it's relevant to the discussion.

As for people of various nationalities playing people of various different nationalities, I'm in Plei, Fiona, and Robin's corner: it's called acting for a reason, and films and TV shows want to do business all over the world, so they should cast all over the world.

And if shows and films do better business abrouad than the homegrown fare, it's hardly the producing country's fault.