I"m over with victor and joe.
Book: Where's the doctor? Not back yet?
Zoe: (beat) We don't make him hurry for the little stuff. He'll be along.
Book: He could hurry... a little.
'Safe'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Connie Neil - May 20, 2004 1:19:16 pm PDT #1129 of 3531
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Sheryl - May 20, 2004 1:21:40 pm PDT #1130 of 3531
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Hi all. As usual, I one of the last USA-folk to chime in on the ep, so I don't really have much to add.
Very bummed that Wes is dead. I know it was kind of inevitable, given all that's happened, but you can't blame me for hoping, can you?
I had heard that Joss was not planning to change the finale once the cancellation order came down. I wonder if that's true, since I can't see a season 6 with the line-up of Angel, Spike, Illyria and possibly Gunn. I'm not sure I'd want to watch it.
I just realized that with the end of Angel, I no longer have any shows I'm interested in on a more-than-superficial level. Ah, well...
Narrator - May 20, 2004 1:28:56 pm PDT #1131 of 3531
The evil is this way?
I had heard that Joss was not planning to change the finale once the cancellation order came down. I wonder if that's true, since I can't see a season 6 with the line-up of Angel, Spike, Illyria and possibly Gunn.
According to this story, joss may have changed the finale a bit once the show was cancelled:
"After the cancellation, there were some hurt feelings among the cast and crew that manifested itself in the finale.
"'We put a lot of that heartbreak into the script, into the show, so it would hurt as much to watch as it did to have it taken away from us,' Whedon said. `I would not have been as brutal about the ending had we had another season.'"
§ ita § - May 20, 2004 1:30:48 pm PDT #1132 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jessica's husband's article more than implies that Joss wanted to transmit the pain of cancellation to his audience. I wonder if we'll ever find out how that went down, exactly.
Allyson - May 20, 2004 1:31:54 pm PDT #1133 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Well, this was total crap.
Narrator - May 20, 2004 1:36:55 pm PDT #1134 of 3531
The evil is this way?
Jessica's husband's article more than implies that Joss wanted to transmit the pain of cancellation to his audience. I wonder if we'll ever find out how that went down, exactly.
They killed Scruffy!Wesley! The Bastards!!!
Seriously, I do wonder if Wes would have been killed off if the show were returning for a 6th season.
Gris - May 20, 2004 1:45:27 pm PDT #1135 of 3531
Hey. New board.
Well, this was total crap.
Allyson pops in yet again to speak undeniable truth. Tersely.
Jessica - May 20, 2004 1:46:04 pm PDT #1136 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
According to DH, Joss was really, really reluctant to give details on what exactly had been changed from the original plan. (And since most of the journalists on the conference call were unspoiled, he couldn't ask anything as specific as "Were you always going to kill Wesley?")
I wonder if he'd be more forthcoming now that it's aired.
§ ita § - May 20, 2004 1:46:43 pm PDT #1137 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the good guys still have to act morally better than the bad guys, or else there's no real difference at all.
Are they talking about the good guy that killed Drogan and ordered Lorne to kill Lindsey, after lying to him? That good guy? The one who got a hero's sendoff anyway?
Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2004 1:47:59 pm PDT #1138 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well, this was total crap
Wow. I've seen some weird shit/causes laid at Buffy's feet over the interbunny, but a role model for Smirky's middle east policy is a new one.
It's like when I go peruse the politcs/White House boards over at TT for sick thrills. I've seen people on the left so rigid that they are just another bunch of hate and fear mongers who are just as bad as Rush and his dildoheads.