Jessica's husband's article more than implies that Joss wanted to transmit the pain of cancellation to his audience. I wonder if we'll ever find out how that went down, exactly.
Mal: Can I come in? Inara: No. Mal: See? That's why I usually don't ask.
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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§ ita § - May 20, 2004 1:30:48 pm PDT #1132 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Allyson - May 20, 2004 1:31:54 pm PDT #1133 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Well, this was total crap.
Narrator - May 20, 2004 1:36:55 pm PDT #1134 of 3531
The evil is this way?
Jessica's husband's article more than implies that Joss wanted to transmit the pain of cancellation to his audience. I wonder if we'll ever find out how that went down, exactly.
They killed Scruffy!Wesley! The Bastards!!!
Seriously, I do wonder if Wes would have been killed off if the show were returning for a 6th season.
Gris - May 20, 2004 1:45:27 pm PDT #1135 of 3531
Hey. New board.
Well, this was total crap.
Allyson pops in yet again to speak undeniable truth. Tersely.
Jessica - May 20, 2004 1:46:04 pm PDT #1136 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
According to DH, Joss was really, really reluctant to give details on what exactly had been changed from the original plan. (And since most of the journalists on the conference call were unspoiled, he couldn't ask anything as specific as "Were you always going to kill Wesley?")
I wonder if he'd be more forthcoming now that it's aired.
§ ita § - May 20, 2004 1:46:43 pm PDT #1137 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the good guys still have to act morally better than the bad guys, or else there's no real difference at all.
Are they talking about the good guy that killed Drogan and ordered Lorne to kill Lindsey, after lying to him? That good guy? The one who got a hero's sendoff anyway?
Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2004 1:47:59 pm PDT #1138 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well, this was total crap
Wow. I've seen some weird shit/causes laid at Buffy's feet over the interbunny, but a role model for Smirky's middle east policy is a new one.
It's like when I go peruse the politcs/White House boards over at TT for sick thrills. I've seen people on the left so rigid that they are just another bunch of hate and fear mongers who are just as bad as Rush and his dildoheads.
thegrommit - May 20, 2004 1:55:08 pm PDT #1139 of 3531
Um.
Well, this was total crap
Don't mind the eye. It's a Toronto listings rag whose writers like to think they're cooler than the other kids.
edit context is good, writers write, papers publish
Consuela - May 20, 2004 1:59:03 pm PDT #1140 of 3531
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
In other words, the heroes of Firefly kind of came off like jihadists fighting American imperialism, for good or ill.
Um. Yeah, right.
t rolls eyes so hard they fall out of head and bounce off keyboard
bon bon - May 20, 2004 2:01:10 pm PDT #1141 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Notably the author of that piece had reams of published articles going back a few years. Every single one of them was on music, none on any other kind of media interpretation (based on my quick scan).
But we all know it's a stupidly unsupported argument and shouldn't be given the time of day. (I don't think I've heard "in other words" and related segues so poorly used in my life.)