I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jesse - Jul 17, 2007 9:07:07 am PDT #9982 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I like Mister Rogers!


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:07:10 am PDT #9983 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Given that I've just PROVEN that NP votes have not affected the outcome of our votes, can we get back to naming the new thread?

Actually, not proven. Proven that the first or perceived main item on a ballot would not be affected by NP (in which case, then why have it?). But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters, it DOES make a difference.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 17, 2007 9:09:37 am PDT #9984 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters it, DOES make a difference.

This brings up the question of what would happen if the main item passed and the secondary item didn't. Would we discuss and vote again? To be specific, if we voted to close the Veronica Mars thread, but the vote on WHEN didn't carry, what would the action be?


Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 9:11:24 am PDT #9985 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters it, DOES make a difference.

Fair enough. I apologize for that generalization. But in a case like this:

closing VM was not controversial, but I remember being annoyed that NP carried the day on leaving it open for awhile.

what's the solution? People want it closed. If we hadn't included the NP votes, when would it have closed?

t edit xpost with Sophia


Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 9:13:58 am PDT #9986 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, I like Job. In the biblical sense.


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:15:41 am PDT #9987 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Don't know. Maybe the ballot needs to be structured differently. As in:

Don't close
Close thread now
Close thread one month after DVD.

Or something like this: No Drama thread.
Drama thread no white font
Drama thread, white font for a 24 hours
Drama thread, white font for a week

Granted this leads to runoffs which I find irksome though more like consensus.


bon bon - Jul 17, 2007 9:17:26 am PDT #9988 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

closing VM was not controversial, but I remember being annoyed that NP carried the day on leaving it open for awhile.

what's the solution? People want it closed. If we hadn't included the NP votes, when would it have closed?

You raise a good point, and I don't mean to say that you're wrong that the furor over NP might be largely moot by recent votes. I'm not sure how to solve it.


Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 9:18:32 am PDT #9989 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Granted this leads to runoffs which I find irksome though more like consensus.

Preferential Voting!!!


Sophia Brooks - Jul 17, 2007 9:19:20 am PDT #9990 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I will laugh like a hyena if we end up with preferential voting somehow!


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:19:41 am PDT #9991 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

HA! I knew that would be your response, Jon.

I think the bigger issue is for us to discuss why it's TV threads driving so much voting and come up with a better long term solution for that.