My food is problematic.

River ,'The Message'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Jon B. - Jan 21, 2005 6:53:37 am PST #6971 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

A review in the Boston Globe today describes Lou Barlow as "the godfather of emo". Knowing that he would be completely horrified to hear himself described that way, I forwarded the link to him. I'll let you know if he responds with anything quotable.


tommyrot - Jan 21, 2005 6:55:29 am PST #6972 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It seems to me that no one who's described as "emo" agrees with that description.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 21, 2005 6:59:13 am PST #6973 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I played The Gun Club, "The Stranger in our Town", this morning, and, probably because of this thread, was struck by how goth the song sounds.

That doesn't surprise me. While I'm woefully unfamiliar with the Gun Club, I've heard the Bad Seeds and Nick and the boys certainly have a Southern/Blues/Death thing going on that's at least tangentially gothy.

A review in the Boston Globe today describes Lou Barlow as "the godfather of emo". Knowing that he would be completely horrified to hear himself described that way, I forwarded the link to him. I'll let you know if he responds with anything quotable.

Oh please do. That's a riot. I haven't had a chance to get to it yet - did the Globe mean it as a compliment?


Jon B. - Jan 21, 2005 7:04:55 am PST #6974 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

did the Globe mean it as a compliment?

Definitely. I linked to the review above, Frank. Here it is again: [link]


Gandalfe - Jan 21, 2005 7:15:35 am PST #6975 of 10003
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Joy Division is Goth? Who knew?

Well, James O'Barr, creator of The Crow, for one.


Atropa - Jan 21, 2005 9:08:49 am PST #6976 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Joy Division is Goth? Who knew?

Joy Division is considered the Band That Started It All, in terms of the early Goth scene.

Real Gothic Music Compilation "Gothic Stylings" 2 CDs

I have no way to do the torrent download-y thing. Curses!

So, for the edification of our readers, who would be examples of them?

Keep in mind these are *very* Jilli-specific definitions.

Swirly: Rasputina, Changelings, Dead Can Dance
Stompy: SPF1000
Britpop: Pulp, Space
Gothic Rock: Sisters of Mercy
Goth God: Peter Murphy, Bauhaus
Eyeliner Boys: H.I.M., London After Midnight, Newlydeads, Queensryche, Type O Negative (This category is 'Eyeliner Boys' because I figured 'Dumb Boys In Eyeliner' was a smidge too long.

I'm going to probably categorize Placebo under Goth Glam. I realized that this morning while drawing on my eyebrows.


Gandalfe - Jan 21, 2005 9:38:35 am PST #6977 of 10003
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Keep in mind these are *very* Jilli-specific definitions.

Pretty close to mine. The BritPop I was completely offbase with, and, I think you'd agree, H.I.M. could easily fit either category.


Atropa - Jan 21, 2005 9:53:31 am PST #6978 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

think you'd agree, H.I.M. could easily fit either category.

Oh, certainly. I just put them in the Eyeliner Boys genre because they fit in that "silly silly bombastic Gawth Rawk! with eyeliner!" subset that makes me giggle.

Candylike the iPod just started "Black No. 1" by Type O Negative, speaking of bombastic Gawth Rawk.


Gandalfe - Jan 21, 2005 10:13:10 am PST #6979 of 10003
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Well, and Ville Valo is the feyest of the fey.


DavidS - Jan 21, 2005 10:14:37 am PST #6980 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Btw, Jilli, do you want to borrow the DVD of Guy Maddin's b/w silent movie version of the Dracula ballet?

I bought it used and it's just sitting around now that we've seen it.