at the rarely noted intersection of baseball and rock and roll, Billy Beane, the GM of the Oakland A's

Sabermetrics is a valid approach to rock and roll, even if it does value chops over artistic vision -- and don't give me "range factor" (number of styles in which a band plays) and "zone rating" (the scene it came out of), the statisticians still haven't figured out how to quantify it.

Another "Richard and Linda breaking up on tour" memory.

Sabermetrics is a valid approach to rock and roll, even if it does value chops over artistic vision -- and don't give me "range factor" (number of styles in which a band plays) and "zone rating" (the scene it came out of), the statisticians still haven't figured out how to quantify it.

Apparently the Oakland A's, working in conjunction with Matador Records, has a set of "secret metrics" measuring heretofore unquantifiable defensive skills, and mastery of DADGAD tuning.

Speaking of which, how high up would you rank Patricia Morrisson as a female goth icon?

In the top 3. #1 is Siouxsie, #2 is all incarnations of Morticia Addams.

(I still miss having giant Patricia Morrisson hair sometimes.)

"put together a baseball team that's as good as 'This Corrosion.'"

What, produced by Jim Steinman?

Heh.

I yelled "Linda!" over the band, she came over, I held out the pick, she smiled and took it and played through the solo.

At the end of the solo, she came back to the lip of the stage and held it out to me. Being a callow youth, I just grinned embarrassed and shook my head, with a "No, no, that's not necessary gesture." She looked me in the eye, leaned over close, and dropped the pick in her bra. Richard, still soloing, was oblivious.

In the top 3. #1 is Siouxsie, #2 is all incarnations of Morticia Addams.

Excellent. I knew I could count on you. Which of the following would you instinctively place in the top ten?

Wednesday Addams
Mary Poppins
Random Model From Skin or Gauntlet
Sally from Nightmare Before Xmas
Louise Brooks (or other 20s vamp/flappers)
The 18th Century

Who is the Victorian goth icon of choice? How about for Pagan/Industrial/Pierced?

Excellent. I knew I could count on you. Which of the following would you instinctively place in the top ten?

Wednesday Addams, Louise Brooks, and the 18th Century (as in, random noblewoman of the 18th Century) would all be in the top 10. Mary Poppins would be in my personal top ten, but I can't see her being in an overall gothy top ten list. Bettie Page would be higher on a gothy icon list than any random model from Skin or Gauntlet.

Victorian goth icon of choice? Er ... probably Lucy from Dracula. I have no idea who would be up in the Pagan/Industrial/Pierced categories.

Victorian goth icon of choice? Er ... probably Lucy from Dracula.

As played by Jude Law's ex-wife?

I have no idea who would be up in the Pagan/Industrial/Pierced categories.

Yeah, I couldn't think of an example even though I've seen this look. Hmmm. The woman in Genitorturers?

As played by Jude Law's ex-wife?

Kinda-sorta. Hmm. No, then probably Lucy, as played by Winona.

I think the actual Victorian icon for gothy women is a melding of every Victorian fashion plate we've ever seen, plus all the pretty dresses in costume dramas.

Oh! Lily from Legend, after she turns to the dark side. Fabulous dress, black lipstick, and swoopy dancing.

Yeah, I couldn't think of an example even though I've seen this look. Hmmm. The woman in Genitorturers?

I suppose. Or any female extra from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.

La la la, I'm seeing Voltaire tonight! And I'll have a good view no matter what, because I get to stay up in the DJ booth at the club.

Lily (scroll down)

Actually, if you go back and click on the Sadie Frost link above, I changed it to one with all of her looks in that movie.

Art Girl Troika! PJ Harvey & Bjork & Tori Amos

Art Girl Troika! PJ Harvey & Bjork & Tori Amos

That's from one of the UK music magazines, right? Pete has a copy of it back at his parents' house.