It's possible that he's in the land of perpetual Wednesday, or the crazy melty land, or you know, the world without shrimp.

Anya ,'Showtime'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Hayden - Oct 30, 2004 7:49:04 am PDT #5680 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Thanks, Fiona! February 18 is the projected release date. It's a little kicker!


Betsy HP - Oct 30, 2004 8:31:15 am PDT #5681 of 10003
If I only had a brain...

We have been immersing ourselves in chanson, so I found some Chevalier in English. It was all silly novelty songs. (Including, of course, "If the nightingale could sing like you/They'd sing much sweeter than you do/'Cause you brought a new kind of love to me.")

I went out and bought a Chevalier album in French. ("Valentine"). Apparently he sang silly novelty songs in French, too. Chevalier: Silly Novelty Songs guy.


Alicia K - Oct 31, 2004 6:45:01 am PST #5682 of 10003
Uncertainty could be our guiding light.

Rio - Oct 31, 2004 8:56:19 am PST #5683 of 10003
Are you ready to be strong?

Hayden! Congratulations!!

Did anyone here read the piece in today's NYT about rockism? It was rilliy good I thought.


Jon B. - Oct 31, 2004 9:53:46 am PST #5684 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm reading it right now! (AIFG?) [link]


DavidS - Oct 31, 2004 9:57:28 am PST #5685 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A rockist is someone who reduces rock 'n' roll to a caricature, then uses that caricature as a weapon. Rockism means idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video; extolling the growling performer while hating the lip-syncher.

Definitely one of the arguments we made in the Bubblegum book. Goes back to the age-old valuation of what's "authentic" - even though time and again that's proven to be a false and indefensible virtue.

Still...

You can argue that the shape-shifting feminist hip-pop of Ms. Aguilera is every bit as radical as the punk rock of the 1970's (and it is),

I think this overstates Christina's value as a pop creator and/or icon.

And let's stop pretending that serious rock songs will last forever, as if anything could, and that shiny pop songs are inherently disposable, as if that were necessarily a bad thing. Van Morrison's "Into the Music" was released the same year as the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight"; which do you hear more often?

This seems a little specious. Van's Astral Weeks is about 35 years old and it is still a consistent seller. That's eons in pop terms. "Rapper's Delight" was a signal event in pop music - it probably gets played as much for its iconic value as it does for its own "pop" qualities. And Van's "Brown Eyed Girl" was a near-perfect pop song. Right down to the Sha la las.


tommyrot - Oct 31, 2004 10:01:57 am PST #5686 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Ms. Aguilera's work is feminist?


Jon B. - Oct 31, 2004 10:06:06 am PST #5687 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Sanneh seems to paint things into two opposite corners where music is really a continuum.

She makes some good points, but then throws in stupid comments like "There's a place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for doo-wop groups and folk singers and disco queens and even rappers - just so long as they, y'know, rock."

Uhh... it's the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame, not the Music hall of fame.


Angus G - Oct 31, 2004 4:15:40 pm PST #5688 of 10003
Roguish Laird

Fair enough, I look forward to someone started the doo-wop hall of fame!

There is actually now a dance music hall of fame, and no doubt a hip-hop one won't be far behind.

I guess, though, the point is that because rockists treat rock music as the paradigm case of all popular music, rival institutions will inevitably be treated as marginal by the music press and so on. But I'm pretty suspicious of any attempt to institutionalise a popular music canon, so personally I'd bomb the lot of them.


tommyrot - Oct 31, 2004 4:18:40 pm PST #5689 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I found the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be scary.