Okay, just woke up, and wanted to respond to this:

Huh. I just found out that some of us are apparently quashing Sean and Connie's ability to talk about the music they love on this board.

I'm getting to a point where all I'm feeling about this place is negative. It's time to take time off.

I was really tired this morning when I wrote that Hayden, but if I had a point it was this:

Snobbery is in the eye of the beholder, and that before we start trying to root out snobbery, or reverse snobbery, we should take a good, hard look at what we're about to do, and why.

Being tired, it was probably a crap point to make, and a crap way to do it. For that, I apologize.

However, I would also like to point out that your not liking my claim (feeling that it is indicative of an overall culture of negativity) should maybe help clarify why the people in Literary reacted so poorly to some of the things said over there yesterday.

Since I am not your dad, nor anybody else's, I was in all likelyhood, out of line.

I apologize for that, too.

it was said with LOVE. I only kid when I love.

But it gives waaaaay too much credit to Bowie (looking at you, Jim).

I don't think that's possible. Jilli, back me up, here.

the 70's list? 2 Clash albums above Never Mind the Bollocks which is putting the cart before the horse. Bowiewise it ignores my favourite album (or indeed work in any art) Diamond dogs, so that's silly. But it's a good list. I don't own enough '70s.

Interesting how high The pop Group are yet Birthday party=nowhere. Fashions change, I remember when the Pop Group were utterly forgotten outside Bristol.

And then I can say, "Cool. But the 21st century didn't come out of nowhere. Try this."

Which is awesome -- even if I never actually pick up a jazz CD, I feel like if/when I do, I'll be in a better place to choose because of you.

Thread happiness reigns.

But it gives waaaaay too much credit to Bowie (looking at you, Jim).

I don't think that's possible. Jilli, back me up, here.

Bowie is God.

What, you want more than that?

Ziggy Stardust has (to my ears & mind) influenced almost every single rock album released after it. Everyone borrows from Bowie, even moreso than they borrow from The Beatles or Led Zep.

Ziggy Stardust has (to my ears & mind) influenced almost every single rock album released after it.

I also maintain that that album is so solid, if it were released today, it would be a smash hit.

I also maintain that that album is so solid, if it were released today, it would be a smash hit.

Oh, totally.

(Once I get tired of listening to the new Cure cd over and over and over -- yay new Cure! -- Ziggy Stardust is going back in the cd player.)

Jilli, we're seeing the Cure Aug. 6!

Jilli, we're seeing the Cure Aug. 6!

sobs

There was no way I was willing to pay $50+ to go sit through a bunch of bands I either don't know or don't really care about, outside in the blazing sun, and THEN see the Cure.

The Cure just played a festival in Paris where one of the other bands was Placebo. Why oh why couldn't *that* festival have been the one touring the States?