I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


DavidS - May 28, 2004 9:25:02 am PDT #2819 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In answer to Teppy...

You know what I think would whet your whistle, musically? I picked up a compilation titled As We Travel which was subtitled: Folk Funk Flavours and Ambient Soul. It's mid seventies funk/soul that's got a loose jazzy groove. Just cherry picking from a bunch of musicians. Here's the link from AMG:

As We Travel

I could burn a copy of that for you.

Joe, avert your eyes. You'd probably also like the Verve Jazz remixed compilations. Unless you hate the idea (and you're enough of a jazz purist that maybe you would). But I like them - they're not all successful but it's a good lean, funky dance groove with jazz over it.

Lots of Trip Hop would probably qualify too, like the first Portishead album Dummy.

Also, the Bossa Nova/Latin Jazz mix I did for the wedding would probably satisfy.

Lots of early seventies soul should work for you too. After you get past Marvin Gaye and Al Green, try an O'Jays or Spinners collection (both Philly bands). Donnie Hathaway, Terry Callier would work for you I think.


esse - May 28, 2004 9:30:13 am PDT #2820 of 10003
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Are they like remix-remixes, David? Or just reorgansations of tunes on a new CD?

Thanks, Hayden; I bookmarked those notes, and I'll read through them the next time I listen to the cd.


Hayden - May 28, 2004 9:33:32 am PDT #2821 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

My pleasure. It was a good way to waste time and now I get to head home in 1/2 an hour.


DavidS - May 28, 2004 9:40:44 am PDT #2822 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Verve Remixed

Actual remixes, SA. I think the AMG rating here is too low because this is pretty listenable. It kind of depends on whether you think anybody should even look at "Strange Fruit" crosseyed much less mess with it. Personally I don't think people should be reverent about remixing or doing covers. Either fuck with it seriously or leave it alone.

I think my favorite remix is probably "Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby" which really creates a great riff out of half a sample. Dinah Washington's voice is so big that she generally overpowers entire orchestras (I think she's a bit brassy). But she sounds better out in front of this big production.

"Spanish Grease" is good, but then the original Willie Bobo is all about the groove to start with, so that wasn't a big change. "Who Needs Forever" and "Return to Paradise" are also pretty cool. Ditto with "Summertime."

And I'm somebody with a large collection of jazz vocals and have the originals for these people. This doesn't replace the originals - the feel is very different. Chill out moody groove music.

There's also a second volume which I haven't heard: Verve Remixed 2


Jon B. - May 28, 2004 9:47:08 am PDT #2823 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Personally I don't think people should be reverent about remixing or doing covers. Either fuck with it seriously or leave it alone.

How does Kenny G.'s fucking with Louis Armstrong fit into your world view?


Daisy Jane - May 28, 2004 9:55:46 am PDT #2824 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Red Dust -- Iron & Wine

Just got one of their cds, and we love love love it.


Daisy Jane - May 28, 2004 9:57:24 am PDT #2825 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Also, speaking of remixes and such. Does anyone know who does a sort of boyband cover of Boys in the Hood?


DavidS - May 28, 2004 10:00:45 am PDT #2826 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How does Kenny G.'s fucking with Louis Armstrong fit into your world view?

Heh. Kenny can do it, but he must also suffer the wrath of Pat Metheny.

Damn, that's a good band name: The Wrath of Pat Metheny!


joe boucher - May 28, 2004 10:15:17 am PDT #2827 of 10003
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I haven't heard the Verve remixes, David, so can't comment on them (and probably won't hear them, although that's a function of limited time & money, not because of a basic objection). I'm not a purist, but I'm also not interested in hearing watered down stuff. If the innovations are in the spirit of "this and this would sound really cool together" or "geez, I wonder what this and this would sound like together" then great, give it a whirl. That exploration is the music's lifeblood. But "lite jazz" or "jazz: America's classical music" drive me bonkers because it's that fucked up marketing concept of "jazz for people who don't like jazz." Which makes it most probably not jazz. The music can survive being lots of things -- blatantly commercial, pretty much unsellable, conservative, radical, lyrical, discordant -- but when it starts apologizing for itself that's the kiss of death. If the guys playing it aren't trying to convince you ("You don't think you like our music? Well, listen to this!") why bother? (I'm loath to be really didactic about it, though, because sometimes contempt for the material injects life into something that otherwise would be really lame. That element of surprise is part of the mystery of art. "That shouldn't have worked, but it did; and that should have worked, but it didn't. WTF?") Anyway, it's time for me to leave. So I'll just recommend this, Mr. Hec, Haunted Heart by Charlie Haden's Quartet West. Not remixes, not new backing tracks, but Charlie picking some of his favorites for "duets" in which the Quartet West plays an intro, maybe short, maybe expansive, that ends up blending seamlessly into the original recordings. My favorites are "Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye" sung by Jeri Southern, and "Deep Song" by Billie Holiday, a tune I haven't seen anywhere else, but which I think ranks with her very best. ETA: I thought about breaking this into paragraphs, but I didn't want to disappoint Misha.


DavidS - May 28, 2004 10:32:08 am PDT #2828 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So I'll just recommend this, Mr. Hec, Haunted Heart by Charlie Haden's Quartet West.

I've got that! That was a cool project.

The thing with the Verve remixes is that they smooth out the playing-with-rhythm which is an inextricable part of bop and after jazz. It's all dance beats of one kind or another. That works fine on something like "Summertime" which can survive any number of interpretations. Less defensible is the way they chopped up Carmen McRae's vocals on "How Long Has This Been Going On" - essentially undoing her timing. Tricky remaking "Strange Fruit" sounds interesting on paper - but it doesn't work as well in actual execution.

But Nina Simone's "See-Line Woman" works pretty well as a groove number.

As creative sampling, it's not nearly as interesting as something like Tipsy or Paul's Boutique or a Bomb Squad production. It definitely trends towards the loungey/chill/ambient side of the spectrum.