You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


tina f. - Mar 15, 2004 9:21:45 am PST #1594 of 10003

tina -- I can't believe you're not demanding that Hec FedEx my mix to you, stat.

I'm still fully digesting your AWESOME 2003 mix, Jon. Otherwise - I'd have gotten all ASSCAP on Hec.

In defense of the Fratcoustic Strum Dudes:

When I was in college I saw A LOT of Dave Matthews and Ben Harper shows before they took off all crazy like (well, Ben never got the kind of airplay that DM did - but he does have a fanatic following). They were great shows and great performers when they first started - period. I think they both ventured off into lameville. (Harper's got all spooky religious as well). But then again, my taste in music changed a lot as well.

I can still enjoy my favorites from both of them every once in a while.

Tina's fave DM album - Live at Luthor College

And favorite BH album - Fight for Your Mind

I just felt the need to state my previous devotion to both. I have never listened to John Mayer.

Ben Harper grew up in Claremont, where his dad owns a musical instrument store-- mostly foreign and unusual stuff.

Listening to Harper talk about instruments is pretty darn amazing, actually. I saw him interviewed by David Byrne on West 54th and Byrne was just in awe of his collection and range of knowledge.


Lyra Jane - Mar 15, 2004 9:26:45 am PST #1595 of 10003
Up with the sun

Is that an official sub-genre yet? Does it have a name?

Whiny Sensitive Boys.


Alicia K - Mar 15, 2004 9:29:31 am PST #1596 of 10003
Uncertainty could be our guiding light.

John Mayer chaps my hide for no good reason. I think it's his voice: dude, what's with all the breathy?

I used to like Dave Matthews until a local "adult alternative" station started playing way too much of him. Acoustic! Live! Solo! All Dave, All the Time! And it started to all sound the same to me.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2004 9:29:56 am PST #1597 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Whiny Sensitive Boys.

Well, by this classification I can see why you'd include Elliot and Jeff. Though there's a lot of indiepop that would qualify, that has nothing to do with the Fratcoustics.


tina f. - Mar 15, 2004 9:34:04 am PST #1598 of 10003

And Whiny Sensitive Boys also starts to include lots of the emo bands as well.

Perhaps WSB is the uber-genre under which the Strum Dudes and emo bands fall?

There is no emo girl band that I know of. Is there the possibility of one? People expect girls to be emo already so I think they can't qualify....hmmm.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2004 9:35:21 am PST #1599 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There is no emo girl band that I know of. Is there the possibility of one? People expect girls to be emo already so I think they can't qualify....hmmm.

I was just thinking that The Indigo Girls are proto-StrumDudes.


msbelle - Mar 15, 2004 9:35:28 am PST #1600 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I love my guitar guys, some more than others, but I loves them.


tina f. - Mar 15, 2004 9:41:16 am PST #1601 of 10003

The Indigo Girls are proto-StrumDudes.

Interesting. But they certainly don't qualify as emo and they can't go under WSB so that as the main genre under which Strum Dudes falls is out.

The more I think of it the whole definition of emo revolves around it being from a guy's perspective.

Also - the early fan following of BH and DMB came out of the neo-Deadhead and Phish crowd. The jam-band angle has to be taken into consideration in classification.


Lyra Jane - Mar 15, 2004 10:07:18 am PST #1602 of 10003
Up with the sun

by this classification I can see why you'd include Elliot and Jeff.

Okay, then, Mopey Dudes, or Mope Rock, or Annoying Mopey Whiney Dudes Who Keep Telling Me My Body Is a Wonderland Until I Want to Smack Them Silly.

But I don't think that would fit on te category sign at Tower.

</random irritation with wussy rock boys >


DavidS - Mar 15, 2004 10:09:38 am PST #1603 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

random irritation with wussy rock boys

hides his Belle and Sebastian and Sarah Records from Lyra. Shit, now Jim E-T can see it. Throws an LP cozy over the lot...