Marco: Do we look reasonable to you? Mal: Well. Looks can be deceiving. Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

'Out Of Gas'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 22, 2003 6:46:56 am PST #620 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

which is something I don't remember from the books at all

Just thought I'd let you know this is NOT in the books. On of PJ's best inventions, actually.

Applause moments at my showing: Samwise the brave's two big moments (Shelob and the Orcs in the tower), Eowyn slaying the winged lampery o'doom and her "I am no man", and there was one more I can't remember. Lots of gasps when the Rohhirim first impacted the enemy.


Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 6:47:04 am PST #621 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

(which is something I don't remember from the books at all)

They are in the books, though far less dramatic. I forget exactly where in the books it happens, too, as there's also the Red Arrow, which summons Rohan. Hmm... Guess I'll just have to read the books again.


tina f. - Dec 22, 2003 6:52:45 am PST #622 of 3902

Anybody see Bravo's special last night on Entertainment Weekly's top 20 entertainers of the year? Even though I already knew that the cast/creators of LotR were number one on the list - I *still* teared up during the montage.

I am hoping there were some hormones at play because if not, I am a much gianter sap than I think I am.

My dad comforted me last night by telling me he was not going to cry when we see it together on Christmas Eve. (My been-through-real-wars dad crying for any reason is too freaky for me to handle especially while trying to keep my shit together to a certain extent in front of him.)

One other thing: Does it make sense to stop whitefonting now? Since everyone has had the weekend to see it?


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 6:56:44 am PST #623 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why don't we wait out the week?


Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 6:56:59 am PST #624 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Just thought I'd let you know this is NOT in the books.

Okay, now I can't remember for sure if the beacons are lit, but they are mentioned in the books, and NOT an invention of PJ's.

In fact, on the detail map of Rohan and Gondor, the beacons even each have names, so I know I didn't make this up.


Consuela - Dec 22, 2003 6:57:23 am PST #625 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Sean is right. When Gandalf is riding to Minas Tirith with Pippin, they pass a messenger going the other way, and then they see the beacons lighting up, one after another, and Gandalf calls out the names of the mountains as they pass. It's actually kinda cool, but not as visually impressive as in the movie.

Katie, I'm with you and Nutty on Eowyn: more despair, please. Eowyn is brittle like Season 6 Scully. *g*

I don't know yet that I think this is the best movie ever. Probably not, not because it's not a fabulous achievement, but because I know too much about it. I think it's impossible to do something this sprawling perfectly, frankly -- there's too much room for error. But it's magnificent, and I can settle for that. *g*


Aims - Dec 22, 2003 6:57:31 am PST #626 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Hee hee. Still pumped a bit. It's strange. After Fellowship, it was all I could do to not be bouncing and squeeing and talking about it 24/7. I loved it loved it loved it.

After Two Towers it tooka couple of hours for the love to sink in. Thought and putting things together and asking questions about certain things (I haven't read, remember, at Sean's request).

This time, I felt almost anticlimactic. The pacing of this one was so different (to me, anyway) than in Fellowship. I'm not sure if it's the pacing of the movie itself or if it's me having been waiting for the resolution of this story for 3 years. It's probably a little of both.

And, my love for this series and this story, at least, what I've seen, knows no bounds. Now, that's not to say I'm going to read the books. I might, I might not. I might just want to keep the magic I got from the movies in my heart and, with the exception of MM telling me a little bit of what happens after, go on imaging things the way I feel they go.

However, it does not stop me from joking about certain things. I am convinced that the defeat of the Witch King was more like this:

WK: No man can defeat me
E: (takes off her helmet) I am no man!
WK: heh heh. Booobies.....Eowyn stabs him in the head
WK: D'OH!!


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 6:58:53 am PST #627 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"The beacons of Gondor are alight, calling for aid. War is kindled. See there is fire on Amon Din, and flame on Eilenach; and they go speeding west: Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad and the Halifirien on the boarders of Rohan."

Gandalf, to Pippin.


Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 6:59:31 am PST #628 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

As a matter of fact, the beacons are mentioned on the very first page of the book, RotK: Chapter I - Minas Tirith...

(Edited, because I was going to quote the passage, hit enter too early, and found out that 'Suela and ita beat me to it. But it's on the very first page even. I was right. Go me.)


Consuela - Dec 22, 2003 6:59:56 am PST #629 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

X-posty goodness!