Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Aims - Jul 27, 2005 11:43:20 am PDT #8635 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Two things:

Has it been discussed that Snape possibly made an Unbreakable Vow to DD? Can the party who you made the vow too let you out of it?

And I agree with Knut and Fay. Rowling IS a better storyteller than that. DD is dead and might continue to help out via Fawkes or his portrait in the headmaster's office. And because she's a great storyteller, I am totally on the wave that Harry AND Voldemort die.


Fay - Jul 27, 2005 11:46:28 am PDT #8636 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I've heard that theory bandied about, and it's plausible. Maybe more so than my own romantic Snape/Lily interpretation of events.

Astonishingly, I now do think it's possible that Harry might be dead as a doornail by the end of Book 7. I don't think it's likely, but I do think it's possible; if you'd asked me a month ago I wouldn't have, but now? Who knows.

(Incidentally, this whole 'OMFG!!!111!! YOU BITCH!!!!' response from the 'shippers post HBP boggles my mind.)


DavidS - Jul 27, 2005 11:47:37 am PDT #8637 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(Incidentally, this whole 'OMFG!!!111!! YOU BITCH!!!!' response from the 'shippers post HBP boggles my mind.)

It's Kitten Board all over again. Extra Deluxe Craxo.


Kate P. - Jul 27, 2005 11:48:28 am PDT #8638 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I like the Snape was following Dumbledore's orders theory, though I have not yet decided if it's the one I subscribe to. I was discussing it with a coworker, and she didn't believe it, because why would Dumbledore immobilize Harry and make him watch Snape kill him? Apart from the fact that it's yet another awful, traumatic event to which Harry has borne witness, she thinks that Dumbledore must understand that if Harry saw Snape kill Dumbledore, there's no way he could ever trust Snape again. In other words, this is the most unforgivable thing that Snape could possibly do, in Harry's eyes, and Dumbledore must know that. So if it turns out that Snape is still loyal to the Order of the Phoenix after all, Harry is still never going to believe him. I still haven't made up my mind one way or another. But this same coworker insists that Sirius/Remus has no basis whatsoever in the books, so we clearly don't see eye to eye on all things HP...


Aims - Jul 27, 2005 11:48:31 am PDT #8639 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t waves wand at HBP "Kittens"

Accico Craxy!


DavidS - Jul 27, 2005 11:50:47 am PDT #8640 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Kate, as for your coworker's question: it helps that Harry doesn't trust Snape, for Snape to be more trusted by Voldemort.


David J. Schwartz - Jul 27, 2005 11:53:43 am PDT #8641 of 10002
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

Misdirection, yes. There is lots of that. And, OK, I'll concede that there might have been some scheming going on between Dumbledore and Snape, although in part I think the theory comes from a place of Snape-worship. (Ducks.) But, nope on the second chapter. Not saying the first chapter was strong, but as Fay said, it's in keeping with the other books. The second, on the other hand, was uncharacteristically clumsy and heavy-handed misdirection, if misdirection it was. I stand by my opinion.

And I like Aimée's ending.


Aims - Jul 27, 2005 11:56:14 am PDT #8642 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Ok, I have a Snape/Lily question:

In OotP, Harry sees his dad being a butthead and doesn't Snape, when Lily helps him, call her a "filthy mudblood" or summat?


David J. Schwartz - Jul 27, 2005 11:56:37 am PDT #8643 of 10002
New, fully poseable Author!Knut.

All white font:

I was thinking about the "Harry won't believe it no matter what" factor, and then I remembered the Pensieve.


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 11:58:47 am PDT #8644 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Knut, regarding your ducks, I don't worship Snape in any way, and I subscribe to that theory. It makes perfect sense, given the facts and JKR's past storytelling history.