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'Lineage'


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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2005 10:55:40 am PST #7070 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That's depressing. I haven't read any in a while, but I used to love Carla Kelly, Mary Balogh, and Mary Jo Putney.

All three of them are still actively writing, but none of them are doing traditionals anymore. Carla Kelly was until very recently, but her next book will be through Harlequin Historicals, and MB and MJP have been writing single title Regency historicals (and in MJP's case the occasional contemporary) for quite awhile.


P.M. Marc - Feb 25, 2005 11:31:20 am PST #7071 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Heck, even Metzger is doing historicals now. I don't know of any of the cream of the crop traditional writers from my youth who haven't moved on.


Maysa - Feb 25, 2005 11:31:52 am PST #7072 of 10002

Carla Kelly was until very recently, but her next book will be through Harlequin Historicals, and MB and MJP have been writing single title Regency historicals (and in MJP's case the occasional contemporary) for quite awhile.

It's good to know they'll still be published - especially Carla Kelly. I actually stopped reading them because most of the writers just didn't grab me anymore and it was too hard weeding through them to find someone good.

ETA: I'm surprised there's not more of a market for these, though. Especially in light of the interest in Jane Austen during the last 10 years.


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2005 11:42:32 am PST #7073 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

ETA: I'm surprised there's not more of a market for these, though. Especially in light of the interest in Jane Austen during the last 10 years.

Me too. I think part of the problem is marketing/packaging. Also, I think the Regency historical has gotten so big it's crowded out the traditionals. I'm a little worried about my end of the market, too--I'm afraid the cash cow is getting a bit bloated and might become a victim of its own success. And while I could write about other eras, I really want to sell the wip. If I can't, and if I conclude it's because of market forces and not because I didn't write it well enough, I'd just be heartbroken. It's possible I've fallen a bit too deeply in love with my own creations.


Maysa - Feb 26, 2005 6:11:26 am PST #7074 of 10002

Susan, what kind of story are you doing?


Susan W. - Feb 26, 2005 7:32:57 am PST #7075 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Basically, star-crossed love across class lines in the midst of the Peninsular War. Highborn cavalry officer's widow, niece of an earl and a great heiress, falls in love with a sergeant.


Maysa - Feb 27, 2005 6:22:27 am PST #7076 of 10002

Basically, star-crossed love across class lines in the midst of the Peninsular War. Highborn cavalry officer's widow, niece of an earl and a great heiress, falls in love with a sergeant.

That sounds really good. It's cool that you're having actual problems like the war and class issues in it. So much more romantic.


Deena - Feb 27, 2005 6:58:01 am PST #7077 of 10002
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

the quality of the writing isn't up to scratch these days, especially in Kensington/Zebra.

I've been trying to read these. So many of them are throw-across the room worthy it's depressing. I think they'd have a market if the quality was better.


Susan W. - Feb 27, 2005 10:27:00 am PST #7078 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That sounds really good. It's cool that you're having actual problems like the war and class issues in it. So much more romantic.

I hope so--that's how I think of it. But I think there's a certain portion of the reading population that's in it for the lords-and-ladies fantasy (not that there's anything wrong with that), and the market caters to it. Also, some of the contest judges and beta readers who've seen it so far can't see why the class difference between the hero and heroine is such a big deal, which frustrates me because I feel like it's solid and organic to the world I'm writing in in a way that many romance novel conflicts aren't. I mean, these people come from worlds that could never fully accept the other person, so being together is going to mean giving up the dreams and hopes and family security they had before they met. Which I think is a huge deal--I just have to figure out how to sell it.

I've been trying to read these. So many of them are throw-across the room worthy it's depressing. I think they'd have a market if the quality was better.

I'll be sure to speak up here when I run across a good one.


Connie Neil - Feb 27, 2005 10:32:18 am PST #7079 of 10002
brillig

some of the contest judges and beta readers who've seen it so far can't see why the class difference between the hero and heroine is such a big deal

Could some of the problem be that, as Americans, class doesn't mean as much (at least consciously)? A lot of books I've seen that purport to be set in England have very thinly veiled "I'm just as good as you are" American-type attitudes on the part of the characters who are from a lower rank. A lot of people find the whole concept of class as a motivator offensive (unless, of course, their darling daughter suddenly wants to date the mechanic, but nobody admits to that). Americans are supposed to be better than that, and the market is American.