And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears?

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Maysa - Feb 26, 2005 6:11:26 am PST #7074 of 10002

Susan, what kind of story are you doing?


Susan W. - Feb 26, 2005 7:32:57 am PST #7075 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Basically, star-crossed love across class lines in the midst of the Peninsular War. Highborn cavalry officer's widow, niece of an earl and a great heiress, falls in love with a sergeant.


Maysa - Feb 27, 2005 6:22:27 am PST #7076 of 10002

Basically, star-crossed love across class lines in the midst of the Peninsular War. Highborn cavalry officer's widow, niece of an earl and a great heiress, falls in love with a sergeant.

That sounds really good. It's cool that you're having actual problems like the war and class issues in it. So much more romantic.


Deena - Feb 27, 2005 6:58:01 am PST #7077 of 10002
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

the quality of the writing isn't up to scratch these days, especially in Kensington/Zebra.

I've been trying to read these. So many of them are throw-across the room worthy it's depressing. I think they'd have a market if the quality was better.


Susan W. - Feb 27, 2005 10:27:00 am PST #7078 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That sounds really good. It's cool that you're having actual problems like the war and class issues in it. So much more romantic.

I hope so--that's how I think of it. But I think there's a certain portion of the reading population that's in it for the lords-and-ladies fantasy (not that there's anything wrong with that), and the market caters to it. Also, some of the contest judges and beta readers who've seen it so far can't see why the class difference between the hero and heroine is such a big deal, which frustrates me because I feel like it's solid and organic to the world I'm writing in in a way that many romance novel conflicts aren't. I mean, these people come from worlds that could never fully accept the other person, so being together is going to mean giving up the dreams and hopes and family security they had before they met. Which I think is a huge deal--I just have to figure out how to sell it.

I've been trying to read these. So many of them are throw-across the room worthy it's depressing. I think they'd have a market if the quality was better.

I'll be sure to speak up here when I run across a good one.


Connie Neil - Feb 27, 2005 10:32:18 am PST #7079 of 10002
brillig

some of the contest judges and beta readers who've seen it so far can't see why the class difference between the hero and heroine is such a big deal

Could some of the problem be that, as Americans, class doesn't mean as much (at least consciously)? A lot of books I've seen that purport to be set in England have very thinly veiled "I'm just as good as you are" American-type attitudes on the part of the characters who are from a lower rank. A lot of people find the whole concept of class as a motivator offensive (unless, of course, their darling daughter suddenly wants to date the mechanic, but nobody admits to that). Americans are supposed to be better than that, and the market is American.


Susan W. - Feb 27, 2005 10:45:28 am PST #7080 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That's probably all true, connie, and I know it's a delicate balance to strike. I'm definitely writing it so that the heroine's conflict isn't, "I can't marry him because he's just naturally beneath me," so much as, "If I marry him, my family will disown me, and I'll lose forever the home I've spent the last few years of my life longing for and fighting to return to. It's him or everything else--there's no way to have both."

I just hope I can make it work, because I'm so madly in love with this story that I want to share it with all the world. It goes beyond mere wanting to be read and to be an author at last instead of just a writer--I want to tell this story because it's got me by the throat. And maybe it'll work out. I've also had some strongly positive "OMG how romantic!" reactions. If I can only find an editor who feels that way....


Atropa - Feb 28, 2005 10:08:00 am PST #7081 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

t tangent

I'm currently re-reading Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman. I suddenly realized that in my head, the character of Hunter is ita.

t /tangent


JohnSweden - Feb 28, 2005 10:20:46 am PST #7082 of 10002
I can't even.

I'm currently re-reading Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman. I suddenly realized that in my head, the character of Hunter is ita.

Well, she wasn't in mine. Until now.

t watches previous headspace Hunter disappear into oblivion


Polter-Cow - Feb 28, 2005 10:35:36 am PST #7083 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well damn. Huh.