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Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


sumi - May 27, 2005 5:55:05 am PDT #941 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!

It was horrible and random -- but it certainly didn't move me to join the "Save Wash" movement.


Daisy Jane - May 27, 2005 6:44:10 am PDT #942 of 1424
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

We went (and saw Cass!) last night. Loved. I have a little concern also that uninitiated may not follow who all these people are, but that may come from trying to imagine what it's like not to know who they are. There was some guy behind us who went on and on about how he doesn't like tv, so I don't know if he'd seen it, and I didn't stick around to listen to his thoughts on the movie (honestly, he sounded a little pretentious).

Mr. H fell madly and completely in love. He is now promising to show each episode in a loop up at the bar- with no music in the afternoons. He's making signs and stickers to put up and three shirts for continuous rotation until the movie opens. He thought it kicked Star Wars's ass.


JZ - May 27, 2005 6:46:47 am PDT #943 of 1424
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Heh. Mr. H is quite adorable.


Jon B. - May 27, 2005 6:49:42 am PDT #944 of 1424
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I enjoyed the movie overall, and I'm definitely excited to see the finished product, but I do agree with Kalshane on this:

While I hate to lose Wash and Book, and it hurts, my main gripe continues to be the presentation. We're not given a chance to breathe. Wash's death is sudden and random and immediately on the heels of Serenity getting seriously shredded (and props to Joss and Tim for this even hurting. My reactions to the various versions of the Enterprise blowing up have always been more "Woah" than "Ow".) then we spend the next 20 minutes getting punched in the gut again and again without a chance to take it all in. Apparently this worked for some people. For me it just caused an emotional disconnect and pulled me out of the story.

Although Tim had nothing to do with the movie, correct?


Daisy Jane - May 27, 2005 7:03:07 am PDT #945 of 1424
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Heh. Mr. H is quite adorable.

You have no idea. He's like a little kid trapped in a huge grizzly bear.

I already knew the death was coming, so I don't really have a pure reaction to it. I know I was dreading it, and knowing when it was coming made me squirm, but actually, I kinda needed the next action/scary stuff. It also did make it seem that none of them might make it. In fact, even being spoiled I kept thinking that maybe others did die and I just forgot. Mr. H said (and I'm not sure I agree- just giving the opinion of someone who, until now, wasn't really invested in any of the characters) he didn't think the story would have worked as well without the death.


sfmarty - May 27, 2005 7:07:08 am PDT #946 of 1424
Who? moi??

Everyone remembers that Summer Glau was the ballerina in the Angel ballet show, right? Stands to reason she can kick ass.


sumi - May 27, 2005 7:25:20 am PDT #947 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, Shohreh Agdashloo's cameo in "Serenity" -- where was it?


Betsy HP - May 27, 2005 7:32:30 am PDT #948 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

Joss loves Summer's feet, and so do I. They're so flexible.


Mr. Broom - May 27, 2005 8:28:51 am PDT #949 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Can I just say--the longest case of TV blueballs ever finally alleviated. And I mean before they even had the sex. One or two of my friends said they would've preferred if Simon had died. "No," I said. "I need him. I need Simon and Kaylee more than can possibly be healthy for me."

This has probably been mentioned, but ever notice how Joss likes to fill gaps as soon as he creates them? Wash's death means (among other things) a romance gap, as there's no couple anymore. The tension between Mal and Inara would be inappropriate to try to resolve in such short order, so into the breach go Kaylee and Simon.

And River watches. It can't count as a squick if you laugh, right?


Betsy HP - May 27, 2005 8:30:36 am PDT #950 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

I wasn't very convinced by the Simon/Kaylee love scenes; I thought that was the weakest part of the plot.