Why are we whitefonting in spoilers.

I see Frank picked up the cluestick.

It's not really about love or lack thereof, it's about moving on, I think.

I think the thing that squicks me about the fucked up campaign is I get a serious Misery vibe off of it. Like the nutjob running it is going to tie Joss to a chair and break his kneecaps or something.

I'm probably the last person in the world to tell someone to let it go, I realize.

Is she still going? I tuned out after a couple of days.

It's not really about love or lack thereof, it's about moving on, I think.

What is this in reference to, Allyson? I can't figure out specifically what you mean.

I'm probably the last person in the world to tell someone to let it go, I realize.

Well, I think there's a world of difference between running a campaign to get a network to not cancel a show, and running a campaign to dictate what the creator of said show (or movie, in this case) should do with his story. Not just world - galaxy of difference. Different universes, even. And, yeah, even without reading the few comments of hers I've seen, the nature of the campaign itself sets off all kinds of warning bells for crazy.

I'm not sure why we're white-fonting at this point - it just started and then carried momentum.

Spoilery reveiw (FAQ, actually) of both SW:E3-RotS and Serenity on AICN:

I agree whole-heartedly with her point #6, though I doubt that comes as a surprise considering I've pretty much said more or less the same thing here.

Overall, I think it's a good and fair review of Serenity.

What is this in reference to, Allyson? I can't figure out specifically what you mean.

Oh, sorry, Kate. The deaths of Wash and Book.

I think some fans are assuming something evil was done to the actors, or there was a Terrible Falling Out.

That's not the case, but I do think both actors sort of wanted to do something different and not be locked into sequels should the movie shock the shit out of me and do well enough to turn into a franchise.

I mean, he could have frozen them in Carbonite or something, but hasn't that been done?

Maybe it's echoes of the Angel thing for me. I remember the rage over Doyle's death. No one ever said anything about Glenn Quinn's addiction. I mean, if he cleaned himself up, why should that reputation follow him around and hurt him?

A lot of fans knew, and never said a word about it. Mutant Enemy folks took a lot of heat, received a lot of abusive Craxy Mail about it. None of those fuckwads screaming bloody murder at Tim and Joss had any clue, nor did they once think outside their worst assumption.

This hits that same nerve with me.

I think in the case of Ron and Alan, a lot of time has passed and they wanted to do different things, and came back for this one out of love and respect. Though, I mean, I don't know either dude. Or Joss for that matter. If there were huge personal issues, they wouldn't have come back at all. It's not like a teevee show where they got the script for next week's ep and were shocked and amazed to see that they were fired.

What. Allyson. Said.

When What Scrappy Said says What You Said, it's such a special feeling.

Oh, and Robin, I'm writing an essay aboutthis very thing, about how writers have done such a fantastic job when an audience feels so deeply connected to a character. And the sort of Misery Factor that can happen.

There was a corkboard at Angel where the Craxy Mail would get pinned. And I always wanted to talk to the writers about it. It's an interesting phenomenon, I think, the sense of ownership some fans can develop. "I watch, so you owe me."

They certainly arent the majority, but they're a really loud, really crazy bunch.

I think, the sense of ownership some fans can develop. "I watch, so you owe me."

I've always been blown away by this. I mean, there are times when I love an artist or band or TV show and then for whatever reason whatever they are doing doesn't work for me. So I either watch and gripe, or I stop watching. But I don't see it as a personal betrayal, nor do I feel ownership of someone else's creation, however much I may relate to it (or feel like they are speaking to me and only me!).

I would have loved for Spike to been offed in Season 4 of Buffy, but that Joss didn't is all his, and I can like it or lump it.