Huh. You might have something there.
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Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Fuckity. How come whenever I decide to get spoiled, it's never for something good?
I'm surprised, a bit, about Wash, because I though Tim and Joss really like Alan, and vice versa. But in a way I'm not surprised...if you are paring characters for a continuing series, those two are the characters to pare. Loads of emotional content in the event of their deaths, and loads of story seeds for how the survivors deal with their deaths. And I'm not sure that Joss and Alan were seeing eye-to-eye on Wash's character anyway.
I'm not surprised that there's a fan campaign to change the story, though. I mean, there's a campaign to change accepted scientific things like evolution. People just aren't very good at accepting things that make them uncomfortable or unhappy anymore.
Still jealous of all you screening-attendees.
In one way, I'm sadder about Book's death than I am about Wash's, because it means we will never learn his back story. I know there was almost no chance we would have any way, but this makes it definite.
Spoilery reveiw (FAQ, actually) of both SW:E3-RotS and Serenity on AICN: [link]
x-post with MOvies.
It's all on one link. If you want to read the Serenity stuff but don't want to be spoiled for SW:E3-RotS, just do a 'find' for "Serenity" - it's about a third of the way down.
Why are we whitefonting in spoilers.
I see Frank picked up the cluestick.
It's not really about love or lack thereof, it's about moving on, I think.
I think the thing that squicks me about the fucked up campaign is I get a serious Misery vibe off of it. Like the nutjob running it is going to tie Joss to a chair and break his kneecaps or something.
I'm probably the last person in the world to tell someone to let it go, I realize.
Is she still going? I tuned out after a couple of days.
It's not really about love or lack thereof, it's about moving on, I think.
What is this in reference to, Allyson? I can't figure out specifically what you mean.
I'm probably the last person in the world to tell someone to let it go, I realize.
Well, I think there's a world of difference between running a campaign to get a network to not cancel a show, and running a campaign to dictate what the creator of said show (or movie, in this case) should do with his story. Not just world - galaxy of difference. Different universes, even. And, yeah, even without reading the few comments of hers I've seen, the nature of the campaign itself sets off all kinds of warning bells for crazy.
I'm not sure why we're white-fonting at this point - it just started and then carried momentum.
Spoilery reveiw (FAQ, actually) of both SW:E3-RotS and Serenity on AICN:
I agree whole-heartedly with her point #6, though I doubt that comes as a surprise considering I've pretty much said more or less the same thing here.
Overall, I think it's a good and fair review of Serenity.
What is this in reference to, Allyson? I can't figure out specifically what you mean.
Oh, sorry, Kate. The deaths of Wash and Book.
I think some fans are assuming something evil was done to the actors, or there was a Terrible Falling Out.
That's not the case, but I do think both actors sort of wanted to do something different and not be locked into sequels should the movie shock the shit out of me and do well enough to turn into a franchise.
I mean, he could have frozen them in Carbonite or something, but hasn't that been done?
Maybe it's echoes of the Angel thing for me. I remember the rage over Doyle's death. No one ever said anything about Glenn Quinn's addiction. I mean, if he cleaned himself up, why should that reputation follow him around and hurt him?
A lot of fans knew, and never said a word about it. Mutant Enemy folks took a lot of heat, received a lot of abusive Craxy Mail about it. None of those fuckwads screaming bloody murder at Tim and Joss had any clue, nor did they once think outside their worst assumption.
This hits that same nerve with me.
I think in the case of Ron and Alan, a lot of time has passed and they wanted to do different things, and came back for this one out of love and respect. Though, I mean, I don't know either dude. Or Joss for that matter. If there were huge personal issues, they wouldn't have come back at all. It's not like a teevee show where they got the script for next week's ep and were shocked and amazed to see that they were fired.