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Xander ,'Help'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Nutty - Oct 02, 2002 10:07:18 am PDT #73 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

What can I say? I'm gentle even when I pull out the cat o' nine tails.

And I was thinking, the original pilot isn't actually spoilers, inasmuch as it's clear some of the concepts have shifted since it was written, and we don't know whether and how much of the footage will be shown. It's, you know, alternate apocrypha, and I didn't want to confuse those who didn't want to be confused.

All right, no whitefont.


lori - Oct 02, 2002 11:23:22 pm PDT #74 of 1424

I've only had time to read about a third of the original pilot script, but I likes.

So, yeah, I'm always looking for chick-chick content, but I really do like the extra "connection" that Inara and Kaylee have in the OP. Hee!

But will that stay in the aired eps, or will they keep trying to make it all about UST between Mal and Inara?


Daisy Jane - Oct 04, 2002 1:31:29 pm PDT #75 of 1424
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

How does one get to the pilot script?


candyb - Oct 04, 2002 2:51:56 pm PDT #76 of 1424

AICN has ep summary.

I didn't know that Joss wrote tonights ep.


Anne W. - Oct 04, 2002 3:18:23 pm PDT #77 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

It must be fun for Joss to write for a whole new set of characters. He must have dozens of character arc ideas that he would have loved to have tried on "Buffy" or "Angel" but that would not have fit the any of the characters on that show.


le nubian - Oct 06, 2002 5:26:31 pm PDT #78 of 1424
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita, you still reading this thread? do you still need a tape of the ep? I owe you one for a buffy tape so I can send it your way.


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2002 6:20:27 pm PDT #79 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oddly, I am reading this thread, but not the normal Firefly one.

skritches head

I'm covered, actually. I found a local dealer.

And you SO don't owe me anything.


Kat - Oct 06, 2002 6:40:20 pm PDT #80 of 1424
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Oddly, I am reading this thread, but not the normal Firefly one.

cause being spoiled for what you are going to see in a few hours might be different than being spoiled for something that may never hit the air. Also there's a difference between spoiled and reading the endless analyzation.

t /justifying because I am also reading this thread but not the show thread.


le nubian - Oct 06, 2002 7:41:08 pm PDT #81 of 1424
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

since Fox is showing the eps all the fuck out of order, I feel obliged to be spoiled because this is the only way I'll get some clarity on the damn series.

This is Fox's fault that I'm spoiled. :-)


Typo Boy - Oct 06, 2002 11:34:34 pm PDT #82 of 1424
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well it is. The original pilot makes a lot of things clearer. It explains a bit how they got 100s of worlds to Terraform. They have some of way of altering gravity, and many the worlds are moons. This means that any rock in the right orbit will do. It also explains talk of multiple system. Obviously each planet with a bunch of moons surrounding it constitutes a "system". Also the gravity control may also answer the intertia question. I mean if you can generate artificial gravity, you might be able dampen interntia as well - depending upon how you generate the gravity.

Still don't know how you get to "hundreds of worlds" but given the this additional technology, maybe someone can fanwank an anomaly that would allow hundreds of terraformable planets. (I guess we can also assume the disassembly of one or more gas giants to provide the needed oxygen, nitrogen and carbon dioxide the worlds to be terraformed might need.)

Still don't know about the galaxies. Just a mis-statement by a writer who confuses another planet in the same solar system with inhabited moons with another galaxy? Or is there FTL after all? The show doesn't feel like FTL , but on stuff like this you never know. If a storyline Joss likes requires FTL, then FTL there shall be. Ditto little pink fairies in ballerina shoes.