It must be fun for Joss to write for a whole new set of characters. He must have dozens of character arc ideas that he would have loved to have tried on "Buffy" or "Angel" but that would not have fit the any of the characters on that show.

ita, you still reading this thread? do you still need a tape of the ep? I owe you one for a buffy tape so I can send it your way.

Oddly, I am reading this thread, but not the normal Firefly one.

skritches head

I'm covered, actually. I found a local dealer.

And you SO don't owe me anything.

Oddly, I am reading this thread, but not the normal Firefly one.

cause being spoiled for what you are going to see in a few hours might be different than being spoiled for something that may never hit the air. Also there's a difference between spoiled and reading the endless analyzation.

t /justifying because I am also reading this thread but not the show thread.

since Fox is showing the eps all the fuck out of order, I feel obliged to be spoiled because this is the only way I'll get some clarity on the damn series.

This is Fox's fault that I'm spoiled. :-)

Well it is. The original pilot makes a lot of things clearer. It explains a bit how they got 100s of worlds to Terraform. They have some of way of altering gravity, and many the worlds are moons. This means that any rock in the right orbit will do. It also explains talk of multiple system. Obviously each planet with a bunch of moons surrounding it constitutes a "system". Also the gravity control may also answer the intertia question. I mean if you can generate artificial gravity, you might be able dampen interntia as well - depending upon how you generate the gravity.

Still don't know how you get to "hundreds of worlds" but given the this additional technology, maybe someone can fanwank an anomaly that would allow hundreds of terraformable planets. (I guess we can also assume the disassembly of one or more gas giants to provide the needed oxygen, nitrogen and carbon dioxide the worlds to be terraformed might need.)

Still don't know about the galaxies. Just a mis-statement by a writer who confuses another planet in the same solar system with inhabited moons with another galaxy? Or is there FTL after all? The show doesn't feel like FTL , but on stuff like this you never know. If a storyline Joss likes requires FTL, then FTL there shall be. Ditto little pink fairies in ballerina shoes.

This is more of a quotable but I'm dropping it here since it is from the pilot:

WASH: Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

I t heart Wash.

From tvguide.com. Just confirms from Joss what Tim Minear said last night:

Will Fox Swat Firefly?

Friday, October 25, 2002

If you haven't yet sampled Fox's gonzo space Western, Firefly, its creator, Joss Whedon, would like to make one small request: Please do... and preferably tonight at 8 pm/ET. "This week definitely matters [to the series' future]," the celebrated writer-director-producer tells TV Guide Online. "[Network prez] Sandy Grushow said to me before we ever started that this [show] is going to be a slow grow, and [the World Series] is going to hurt us, which it has. Fox has a lot of shows that are underperforming because of this weird season.

"So," he continues, "I'm not like, 'My future is assured!' But it's also not like the death knell chiming."

Far from it. In fact, Fox just commissioned three additional scripts from Whedon, the mastermind behind UPN's Buffy the Vampire Slayer and its glorious WB spinoff, Angel. However, Firefly has yet to get a full-season pickup. "[The script order from the net] is a vote of confidence, and it's a way of not making a decision," Whedon theorizes. "The next few weeks will be important, and this week I'm particularly stressing because I think it's such a good entrance into the world [of spaceship captain Mal Reynolds and his merry band of rogues and misfits]. That's why I'm all hyped about it.

"It has a number of flashbacks to how the crew got together," he continues, "so it's a really good way to learn how it all began. For somebody meeting the characters for the first time, it's a real insight into who they are. There's not all this [plot] information to process, which is a problem because the pilot was never shown. People are like, 'Um, what's going on?' The idea was never to confuse people."

Just so Whedon doesn't add to viewers' consternation, he quickly notes that the backtracking scenes are not highlights from the debut that Fox shot down. "These flashbacks are to before the pilot," he clarifies. "The pilot was the story of how this crew picked up a few wayward stragglers; [this installment] flashes back to how [the original gang] first found the ship itself, what the ship is and what it means to Mal, because [the craft] really is the 10th character on the show."

Now that that matter has been cleared up, Whedon hopes that viewers will be able to sit back, relax and enjoy the show... for years to come, ideally. For the moment, though, he sighs, "Everything is kind of in flux." - Michael Ausiello with Ben Katner

Wow. I hope this means that they'll show a little bit more of how Zoe and Wash ended up as ZoeandWash.

There a scene from the next episode, War Stories, posted on the Fox site. Mal and Wash get kidnapped. Looks Good!

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