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Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


le nubian - Oct 06, 2002 7:41:08 pm PDT #81 of 1424
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

since Fox is showing the eps all the fuck out of order, I feel obliged to be spoiled because this is the only way I'll get some clarity on the damn series.

This is Fox's fault that I'm spoiled. :-)


Typo Boy - Oct 06, 2002 11:34:34 pm PDT #82 of 1424
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well it is. The original pilot makes a lot of things clearer. It explains a bit how they got 100s of worlds to Terraform. They have some of way of altering gravity, and many the worlds are moons. This means that any rock in the right orbit will do. It also explains talk of multiple system. Obviously each planet with a bunch of moons surrounding it constitutes a "system". Also the gravity control may also answer the intertia question. I mean if you can generate artificial gravity, you might be able dampen interntia as well - depending upon how you generate the gravity.

Still don't know how you get to "hundreds of worlds" but given the this additional technology, maybe someone can fanwank an anomaly that would allow hundreds of terraformable planets. (I guess we can also assume the disassembly of one or more gas giants to provide the needed oxygen, nitrogen and carbon dioxide the worlds to be terraformed might need.)

Still don't know about the galaxies. Just a mis-statement by a writer who confuses another planet in the same solar system with inhabited moons with another galaxy? Or is there FTL after all? The show doesn't feel like FTL , but on stuff like this you never know. If a storyline Joss likes requires FTL, then FTL there shall be. Ditto little pink fairies in ballerina shoes.


Kat - Oct 11, 2002 5:17:09 pm PDT #83 of 1424
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

This is more of a quotable but I'm dropping it here since it is from the pilot:

WASH: Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

I t heart Wash.


candyb - Oct 25, 2002 6:25:00 am PDT #84 of 1424

From tvguide.com. Just confirms from Joss what Tim Minear said last night:

Will Fox Swat Firefly?
Friday, October 25, 2002
If you haven't yet sampled Fox's gonzo space Western, Firefly, its creator, Joss Whedon, would like to make one small request: Please do... and preferably tonight at 8 pm/ET. "This week definitely matters [to the series' future]," the celebrated writer-director-producer tells TV Guide Online. "[Network prez] Sandy Grushow said to me before we ever started that this [show] is going to be a slow grow, and [the World Series] is going to hurt us, which it has. Fox has a lot of shows that are underperforming because of this weird season.

"So," he continues, "I'm not like, 'My future is assured!' But it's also not like the death knell chiming."

Far from it. In fact, Fox just commissioned three additional scripts from Whedon, the mastermind behind UPN's Buffy the Vampire Slayer and its glorious WB spinoff, Angel. However, Firefly has yet to get a full-season pickup. "[The script order from the net] is a vote of confidence, and it's a way of not making a decision," Whedon theorizes. "The next few weeks will be important, and this week I'm particularly stressing because I think it's such a good entrance into the world [of spaceship captain Mal Reynolds and his merry band of rogues and misfits]. That's why I'm all hyped about it.

"It has a number of flashbacks to how the crew got together," he continues, "so it's a really good way to learn how it all began. For somebody meeting the characters for the first time, it's a real insight into who they are. There's not all this [plot] information to process, which is a problem because the pilot was never shown. People are like, 'Um, what's going on?' The idea was never to confuse people."

Just so Whedon doesn't add to viewers' consternation, he quickly notes that the backtracking scenes are not highlights from the debut that Fox shot down. "These flashbacks are to before the pilot," he clarifies. "The pilot was the story of how this crew picked up a few wayward stragglers; [this installment] flashes back to how [the original gang] first found the ship itself, what the ship is and what it means to Mal, because [the craft] really is the 10th character on the show."

Now that that matter has been cleared up, Whedon hopes that viewers will be able to sit back, relax and enjoy the show... for years to come, ideally. For the moment, though, he sighs, "Everything is kind of in flux." - Michael Ausiello with Ben Katner


Anne W. - Oct 25, 2002 6:37:44 am PDT #85 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Wow. I hope this means that they'll show a little bit more of how Zoe and Wash ended up as ZoeandWash.


Sue - Nov 21, 2002 12:38:08 pm PST #86 of 1424
hip deep in pie

There a scene from the next episode, War Stories, posted on the Fox site. Mal and Wash get kidnapped. Looks Good!

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Kristen - Nov 21, 2002 1:48:55 pm PST #87 of 1424

And then Mal turns to Wash and says, "If we're gonna die, I want you to have something real before we do..."

Oh no wait. Wrong show.


Anne W. - Nov 21, 2002 1:51:59 pm PST #88 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The sample script pages are intriguing. I like that Mal wasn't entirely happy about Zoe marrying Wash.


Sue - Nov 21, 2002 1:55:32 pm PST #89 of 1424
hip deep in pie

I'm excited to see that scene, I have to say.


Cindy - Nov 21, 2002 1:55:57 pm PST #90 of 1424
Nobody

No slashing Wash or Zoe! I like that they're happily married but not dead boring.