Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Anne W. - Sep 30, 2002 9:24:01 am PDT #32 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

IIRC, the Chaco Canyon area in the American southwest is where they've found skeletons that point to possible cannibalism.


Nutty - Sep 30, 2002 9:33:56 am PDT #33 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

You guys have never seen the movie How Tasty Was My Little Frenchman. It's Portuguese/Brazilian, and it's about the cannibal Tupi of coastal Brazil. And it's sort of affectionate; by the end it's clear that ritual cannibalism is regarded within the tribe as an honorable thing to be a victim of. Of course, the Tupi were all completely wiped out before 1650, so it's mostly conjecture.

But also, the Tupi weren't nihilists, and we've got evidence the Anasazi cooked what people they ate.


P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2002 9:45:43 am PDT #34 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So, with the number of times Book mentions in the pilot that he's never married, think confirmed bachelor is a safe assumption? (We know that Companions are thought of highly, but what's the thought on homosexuality in the Fireflyverse?)


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 30, 2002 11:07:14 am PDT #35 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Given the Old West themes, probably not very highly. dammit.


Typo Boy - Sep 30, 2002 11:13:13 am PDT #36 of 1424
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

On the other hand we have a badass woman fiighter? And they don't seem to be seen as Calamity Jane type exceptions. And woman engineers. In general , not nearly the gender inequality of the old west. Generally gender equality tends to go hand in hand with less repression against homosexualty. So we can assume great openess to HoYay, and to GayAndLesMarYay than the real old West -- until proven otherwise.


Anne W. - Sep 30, 2002 11:17:44 am PDT #37 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Well, this is a ME production, so I'd assume the writers would be reasonably gay-friendly.

What I'd love to see is for one of the characters to meet an old flame or hook up with someone of the same gender and have no one on the show even comment on the person's gender.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 30, 2002 11:17:55 am PDT #38 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That "She hit on me too." line of Inara's from the preview might be an indicator that it's still seen as an eyebrow-raising thing. (Too soon to tell out of context...) But yeah, the lesser enforcing of gender-stereotyped roles seems to indicate less uptightness over sexuality in general.


Nutty - Sep 30, 2002 11:37:53 am PDT #39 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

If I were a professional carpenter, and had some numbnut weirdo walk up to me and start telling me how to plane a board, I'd be a bit annoyed too.

And you people will never know how I self-edited and saved you all from the mixed metaphor of teaching a carpenter's grandmother to suck eggs.


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2002 12:58:56 pm PDT #40 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That "She hit on me too." line of Inara's from the preview might be an indicator that it's still seen as an eyebrow-raising thing.

But there was no gender-based awkwardness around the idea that Inara might be servicing Kaylee. So I think the eyebrow raising might be from something else, like "how terribly inappropriate to hit on crew/a companion/whatever", other than a fear of lezzie-cooties.


Melusina - Sep 30, 2002 1:14:17 pm PDT #41 of 1424
Nice is different than good.

Or possibly the eyebrow raising was related to the fact that the stowaway seems to have hit on everyone on the ship. (Based on the preview). Is it just me, or did the preview make next week's episode look like Goldilocks in space? "She hit on me too, and I took her up on it!"