OK-- so who has read the pilot and wants to talk?
I'm supposed to deliver you to the Master now. There's this whole deal where I get to be immortal. Are you cool with that?
Xander ,'Lessons'
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Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:31:42 am PDT #22 of 1424
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Megan E. - Sep 30, 2002 8:33:48 am PDT #23 of 1424
Is there a link to the pilot online?
P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2002 8:35:28 am PDT #24 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Me! Me!
Inara is so much less annoying in the pilot, and the tensions are higher, and...
Damn it.
Fox was on c-r-a-c-k
§ ita § - Sep 30, 2002 8:35:49 am PDT #25 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm with those that see a distinction between the Western genre (which has bloodthirsty attackers) and a depiction of the American West. Space Western only need draw from the former.
OTOH, I could see a Reaver story where we get the full "why" of it all. Which need not be as simple as what we've seen so far.
Megan -- it's where Shrift keeps her stuff.
Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:38:25 am PDT #26 of 1424
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I really! liked th pilot, although I was amused by the description of Kaylee as 'zaftig'-- although knowing Joss he really wanted zaftig and ended up with not-skinny.
The pilot explained TONS of stuff that I was confused about, and unless the acting was really bad, I don't see why they didn't air it. There was a ot of exposition, but alot of action, too.
Also, it explicates Jayne in a way I'm not sure I should share until more people have read it.
Megan E. - Sep 30, 2002 8:42:36 am PDT #27 of 1424
Megan -- it's where Shrift keeps her stuff.
I don't seem to have that bookmarked. Could someone send it to my profile address?
esse - Sep 30, 2002 8:47:35 am PDT #28 of 1424
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Shrift has it online? As in, the show?
Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:49:36 am PDT #29 of 1424
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
the script. I read it where rayne keeps the pdfs, though. I don't seem to have shrifts site marked either.
P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2002 8:50:00 am PDT #30 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
As in the words.
ted r - Sep 30, 2002 9:14:14 am PDT #31 of 1424
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein
"Hmm - it is worth remembering that the Old West's more bloodthirsty American Indian tribes were fighting to recover stolen land. Not that it excuses the rapes and such, but more Indians were victims than were victimizers... Is it possible that in drawing these historical comparisons, Joss does not know any actual history? I thought he was a lit major of some sort, which usually involves learning some history as well?"
Well Joss may be drawing the reavers from earlier Native American history-before the whites arrived. There is evidence of attacks from cannibalistic bands on agricultural native tribes in the American southwest. I'm fuzzy on the details at this point (European history is more my home ground), and the evidence remains controversial among athropologists and historians, but The New Yorker ran an interesting article on the subject a couple of years ago as I recall. That is quite possibly where Joss got the idea.