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Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


happy phantom - Jul 28, 2003 12:47:00 pm PDT #296 of 1424
I'm old school. Like Happy Shopper.

So, I'm just about done crying now, after having seen the Message, which was of the same insanely high quality that all previous episodes have lead me to expect.

I'm so in love with show, that it can make me laugh out loud and then move me to tears in such a short space of time. I don't know what I'm going to do when it's over, but enough of that. Must focus on the fabulousness that was this episode.

First there was Simon, being all cute and didn't you just know he was going to screw it up somehow? But that gave us Zoe putting her arm round him, and acting like a concerned big sister, with the sarcasm and everything, so it was worth it.

I loved the Space Station. Just like Serenity it felt like a real place, where people lived and worked, and tried to get on with life as best they could. In fact the whole pre-credits sequence just rocked my world, with River's "My food is problematic" and Jayne's Hat! And reading his letter, and Kaylee resting her head on Inara's shoulder. I just loved it to bits.

Onto, whassisname, Holden/Knox/Tracy guy (it was him right? It looked and sounded like him, but I didn't check the credits.) Scifi kinda spoiled it a little by putting the whole him-not-really-being-dead thing in the promo, which ruined the reveal. I like that it's never stated that he's good or bad, or right or wrong. He's just one more person, trying to get by in the world, and his methods weren't ones that Mal and Zoe agreed with, but they still took him home, and I'm welling up again which is just no good.

Loved the flashback. Zoe stating "First rule of battle; never let them know where you are" then Mal rushing in whooping and hollering. "Of course, there are other schools of thought." just cracked me up.

His death was so sad though, so unecessary. If he'd just waited, and listened and not been so skittish, he might've made it. Though no doubt he would have ended up in some other similar situation eventually.

Oh and the race through the snowy caverns scene was absolutely exhilarating, and the fx were spiffy. I especially loved it because I've always wondered when people try to get away by doing crazy flying through ravines that the chasers don't just fly over them, and that's exactly what happened.

And they completely made up for the the lack of Book last week by having him stare down evil-alan-from-24-guy. I really hope we at least get a small hint to just why Book is such a rock-solid guy before the end, just a tease!


happy phantom - Jul 28, 2003 12:50:45 pm PDT #297 of 1424
I'm old school. Like Happy Shopper.

Heh. I just read your post after writing mine Fay, and we pretty much say the exact same things in the same order and everything!

This show is just going to break our hearts, isn't it?


Fay - Jul 28, 2003 12:52:56 pm PDT #298 of 1424
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

In fact the whole pre-credits sequence just rocked my world, with River's "My food is problematic" and Jayne's Hat! And reading his letter, and Kaylee resting her head on Inara's shoulder. I just loved it to bits.

nods

Absobloodylutely. Yes. Damn straight.

And they completely made up for the the lack of Book last week by having him stare down evil-alan-from-24-guy.

True! (And, hey, those of you who have tuned in to previous episodes of "The Life and Times of Fay" may recall that I mentioned how engaged I got in the first season of 24? Well, it was of course Alan/Jim/FireflyVillainOfTheWeek to whom I was referring when I bellowed "Shoot him in the cock! Shoot him in the fucking cock!!!" at the screen by way of encouragement to Jack Bauer to try torture as a means of getting vital information from the sonofabitch who knew where Kim and Terry were, and who had just claimed to be torture-proof. Thus earning an eloquently raised eyebrow from my mum, and reminding me that reading too much porn makes you liable to bandy around vocabulary that isn't always entirely appropriate. And also that I'm far more violent than I'd previously realised.)

eta

This show is just going to break our hearts, isn't it?

Yes. Yes, I rather fear it is.


Jars - Jul 28, 2003 1:48:39 pm PDT #299 of 1424

What y'all said.

This episode of the 'Jars Loves Firefly Show' will probably end up being in an incoherent list format, but bear with me, because there was so. much. goodness.

Mutant cattle. Oh, yes. My God, but could Simon be more adorable? Sean Maher pulled that scene off so well, I was actually squealing at the television. As Fay said, woobie! Also loving Wash and Zoe. And Jayne's hat, and his letter from his mother, though what kind of mother would end up with Jayne is certainly an open question.

The war flashback was just so classy. All the bits that you've already mentioned -- yes and yes. I loved the Seeker dealie aswell though. So freaking classy.

Tracy, whoever he may be, was fabulous. The senselessness of the whole thing just about broke me. Mal's reaction was heartbreaking, and makes me want to give Nathan Fillion some kind of award. Supreme Ruler of the Galaxy, perhaps? Do you think he'd settle for my firstborn?

There's more bitter creeping into my sweet now though. Only two episodes left! If anyone needs me, I'll most likely be renting a houseboat in Egypt.


Allyson - Jul 28, 2003 1:50:31 pm PDT #300 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Was this the one they were filming when Kristen and I were there? Was there some soldier freaking out while eating a can of beans?


Fay - Jul 28, 2003 1:52:15 pm PDT #301 of 1424
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It was smashing, wasn't it?

Supreme Ruler of the Galaxy, perhaps? Do you think he'd settle for my firstborn?

I was thinking maybe he could try contributing to the creation of my firstborn. (This is in no way related to my ongoing plan to become Canadian. No siree. Nothing to see here. Move along.)

There's more bitter creeping into my sweet now though. Only two episodes left! If anyone needs me, I'll most likely be renting a houseboat in Egypt.

Such is my devotion to the show that I've taken this whole living in de Nile thing literally. Yes. 4 weeks and counting before I'm off to Cairo.

t /not kidding


Griffyn - Jul 28, 2003 1:54:21 pm PDT #302 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?

That would be the one Allyson.

Jayne's note from Mom just about broke me. No wonder he's so mercenary, he's sending his money home to help his poor mother care for Maddy who is sick. What a big softie. And then the discussion with Book about death and such. Priceless. Told me /so/ much about Jayne as a man, love it.


DCJensen - Jul 28, 2003 2:07:32 pm PDT #303 of 1424
All is well that ends in pizza.

Loved the new hat.


Jars - Jul 28, 2003 2:08:17 pm PDT #304 of 1424

Fay, your commitment astonishes me. I'll just be hiding my metaphor in shame over in the corner.

Allyson, could I possibly steal/share/borrow your brain for a day to know the terrificness of seeing Firefly filming? I'll try not to dirty it, I promise.

And yup, the Baldwin is a comedy genius.


DCJensen - Jul 28, 2003 2:11:24 pm PDT #305 of 1424
All is well that ends in pizza.

I guess I just wish I worked for a company who had the esprit de corps that Serenity does. And the loyalty. And the code of honor.

Without having to drop a bunch of years and join the armed forces, I mean.