Inara: We thought we lost you. Mal: Well, I've been right here.

'Out Of Gas'


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Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Nutty - Sep 30, 2002 8:30:22 am PDT #21 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Especially considering how, in space and on newly-terraformed planets, there is no such things as 'natives'. At best, there's the conflict between we-were-here-first, leave-me-alone wildcatters and the legally-endowed, dominant-paradigm-perpetuating settlers. And cowboys-and-schoolteachers is a worthwhile conflict to study, but it doesn't carry the same connotations of racial/cultural conflict as cowboys-and-Indians.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:31:42 am PDT #22 of 1424
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK-- so who has read the pilot and wants to talk?


Megan E. - Sep 30, 2002 8:33:48 am PDT #23 of 1424

Is there a link to the pilot online?


P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2002 8:35:28 am PDT #24 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Me! Me!

Inara is so much less annoying in the pilot, and the tensions are higher, and...

Damn it.

Fox was on c-r-a-c-k


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2002 8:35:49 am PDT #25 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm with those that see a distinction between the Western genre (which has bloodthirsty attackers) and a depiction of the American West. Space Western only need draw from the former.

OTOH, I could see a Reaver story where we get the full "why" of it all. Which need not be as simple as what we've seen so far.

Megan -- it's where Shrift keeps her stuff.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:38:25 am PDT #26 of 1424
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I really! liked th pilot, although I was amused by the description of Kaylee as 'zaftig'-- although knowing Joss he really wanted zaftig and ended up with not-skinny.

The pilot explained TONS of stuff that I was confused about, and unless the acting was really bad, I don't see why they didn't air it. There was a ot of exposition, but alot of action, too.

Also, it explicates Jayne in a way I'm not sure I should share until more people have read it.


Megan E. - Sep 30, 2002 8:42:36 am PDT #27 of 1424

Megan -- it's where Shrift keeps her stuff.

I don't seem to have that bookmarked. Could someone send it to my profile address?


esse - Sep 30, 2002 8:47:35 am PDT #28 of 1424
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Shrift has it online? As in, the show?


Sophia Brooks - Sep 30, 2002 8:49:36 am PDT #29 of 1424
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

the script. I read it where rayne keeps the pdfs, though. I don't seem to have shrifts site marked either.


P.M. Marc - Sep 30, 2002 8:50:00 am PDT #30 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

As in the words.