I just don't think I'm as sure of my opinions as you are Allyson. I was massively conflicted leaving the cinema. There were parts that I really enjoyed, and parts that I didn't so much, but I was worried that the only reason I didn't like those parts was because I loved the show so much and they weren't like the show at all.

I didn't think it was a 'ridiculously stupid plot' either, though again I had problems with it. I thought it was a lot more sci-fi than the show had ever dared to be. So it didn't fit in my head with my vision of the show, which I wasn't happy about (along with the whole sci-fi blue lighting thing). I think I'll have to watch it again to try and get a better sense of it as a movie, entirely seperate from what preceded it, but I'd trust the opinions of people who hadn't ever seen the show a lot more on that one.

I disliked Serenity more than I thought I would. I expected to have issues with it but was surprised by how many issues I had. Especially the dialogue. There was some funny lines, yes, but there were a lot of clunkers. Far more than I expected from Joss. Because, while he sometimes likes to throw out the story for the sake of a better story, he usually brings the good talky.

I do think that Serenity could have been trimmed down and made into a much better one hour episode.

I did want to sign it "Dear Joss, please stop believing your own press," but I didn't want to harsh anyone's mellow.

HA. That ship, my friend, has already sailed.

I mean, you don't like Joss's writing, IIRC.

That's Strega. I did have some low expectations going in, as you know, I didn't expect to be appalled at the quality of the storytelling.

I remember feeling like I wished I hadn't gone. I realized that I wanted to be there purely for ridiculously lame ego reasons, weeks ago, and I shouldn't have gone.

That's Strega

Aha. Do you feel Joss wrote like Joss, as in for TV, or Joss wrote like Joss, for film, or Joss wrote like some pod person whose writing isn't what you'd come to look like from him?

I remember feeling like I wished I hadn't gone.

Really? I don't even feel that way about Spiceworld.

Pod person. Lazy.

It was lovely to see you, though!

I just should have gone in to see Transporter II and met you afterward.

It was lovely to see you, though!

See? Not a total loss.

I just should have gone in to see Transporter II and met you afterward.

Well, you'd have had less invested, but it was a much stupider film. I mean, if you're looking for plot or characters or obeisance to the laws of physics. Fun, though.

Fun, though.

Exactly.

Exactly.

I can't be trusted! I thought Serenity was fun too.

And, it would seem, Spiceworld.

Never said anything of the sort. Spiceworld was an appalling movie. But I got what I wanted out of it -- the grounds to be able to see that with first hand authority, and I don't regret seeing it for a second.