Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Kristen - Sep 29, 2005 6:14:47 am PDT #1380 of 1424

I disliked Serenity more than I thought I would. I expected to have issues with it but was surprised by how many issues I had. Especially the dialogue. There was some funny lines, yes, but there were a lot of clunkers. Far more than I expected from Joss. Because, while he sometimes likes to throw out the story for the sake of a better story, he usually brings the good talky.

I do think that Serenity could have been trimmed down and made into a much better one hour episode.

I did want to sign it "Dear Joss, please stop believing your own press," but I didn't want to harsh anyone's mellow.

HA. That ship, my friend, has already sailed.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2005 6:20:37 am PDT #1381 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I mean, you don't like Joss's writing, IIRC.

That's Strega. I did have some low expectations going in, as you know, I didn't expect to be appalled at the quality of the storytelling.

I remember feeling like I wished I hadn't gone. I realized that I wanted to be there purely for ridiculously lame ego reasons, weeks ago, and I shouldn't have gone.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 6:31:08 am PDT #1382 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's Strega

Aha. Do you feel Joss wrote like Joss, as in for TV, or Joss wrote like Joss, for film, or Joss wrote like some pod person whose writing isn't what you'd come to look like from him?

I remember feeling like I wished I hadn't gone.

Really? I don't even feel that way about Spiceworld.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2005 6:35:50 am PDT #1383 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Pod person. Lazy.

It was lovely to see you, though!

I just should have gone in to see Transporter II and met you afterward.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 6:37:58 am PDT #1384 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was lovely to see you, though!

See? Not a total loss.

I just should have gone in to see Transporter II and met you afterward.

Well, you'd have had less invested, but it was a much stupider film. I mean, if you're looking for plot or characters or obeisance to the laws of physics. Fun, though.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2005 6:46:02 am PDT #1385 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Fun, though.

Exactly.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 6:47:07 am PDT #1386 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Exactly.

I can't be trusted! I thought Serenity was fun too.


Kristen - Sep 29, 2005 6:48:05 am PDT #1387 of 1424

And, it would seem, Spiceworld.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 6:50:07 am PDT #1388 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never said anything of the sort. Spiceworld was an appalling movie. But I got what I wanted out of it -- the grounds to be able to see that with first hand authority, and I don't regret seeing it for a second.


KernelM - Sep 29, 2005 7:10:52 am PDT #1389 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

(I went to the film with a co-worker who'd loaned half the office her DVDs. She was embarrassed by the people in costume.)

So were these people in costume behaving in an obnoxious way? Or just the fact that they were in costume was embarrassing.