River: 1001. 1002. Simon: River... River: Shh. I'm counting between the lightning and the thunder to see if the storm is coming or going. .1005

'The Message'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 02, 2005 5:01:37 am PDT #1026 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I almost did the exact same thing Sumi, before realizing she was unspoiled and posting anything there would be a Bad Thing.

I'm kind of torn about being spoiled for that myself. Wash was my 8th favorite character on the show, so I doubt I would have been among those with the most outraged grief reactions, and I kind of regret the moment isn't going to have quite the HSQ factor for me when I see it. Then again, if it had been Zoe or Kaylee in his place I'd have wanted to be spoiled ahead of time so I could be emotionally prepared for the loss.


Mr. Broom - Jun 02, 2005 7:58:36 am PDT #1027 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

For the next few days, every conversation I began with my best friend started not with "hi" but with "Wash is dead." He would then say, "I know."

Okay, we're still doing that.


amych - Jun 02, 2005 8:09:57 am PDT #1028 of 1424
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Wash is not dead. Wash will not be dead until Sept 30. It's just that we have a tragic and certain foreknowledge. It's the kind of vibe Walter Benjamin would totally go for, if only he had the pop culture lurve.


Betsy HP - Jun 02, 2005 8:19:14 am PDT #1029 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

He's Schrodinger's Wash: dead to us, but not to the world at large. Or maybe he's Relativity Wash: dead or not-dead depending on the position of the observer.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 02, 2005 8:23:17 am PDT #1030 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

He's Schrodinger's Wash: dead to us, but not to the world at large. Or maybe he's Relativity Wash: dead or not-dead depending on the position of the observer.

Heh, or Joss has alternate footage of the entire last half hour of the movie and someone else buys the farm in Sept.


Anne W. - Jun 02, 2005 8:24:17 am PDT #1031 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Heh, or Joss has alternate footage of the entire last half hour of the movie and someone else buys the farm in Sept.

That would be funny.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 02, 2005 8:25:27 am PDT #1032 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That would be funny.

You say that now, but what if it's t insert favorite character here ?


Mr. Broom - Jun 02, 2005 8:26:06 am PDT #1033 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

If it makes anyone feel better, none of this'll happen for five hundred years or so, so if we're long-lived enough and can plan ahead very, very well we can avert this disaster.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 02, 2005 8:41:32 am PDT #1034 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

If it makes anyone feel better, none of this'll happen for five hundred years or so, so if we're long-lived enough and can plan ahead very, very well we can avert this disaster.

Yes, because we know from experience how well trying to avert prophecies in something written by Joss Whedon goes....


Lilty Cash - Jun 02, 2005 6:02:29 pm PDT #1035 of 1424
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Wash is not dead. Wash will not be dead until Sept 30

Heh. This answers an interesting "When is canon really canon?" question I had in my head.

Also, Frank, I'd love to say I could do something this weekend, but we're going into the Big Sale on Monday, thus making the next several days likely hellish.

Stoopid job.