I'll bet she never taught them how to spin rats, ita.
No, but she'd have swung them, given the slightest provocation.
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Mal ,'Bushwhacked'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
§ ita § - Oct 28, 2003 8:15:26 am PST #1527 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy Booth - Oct 28, 2003 8:21:00 am PST #1528 of 10000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Ah, but would she have swung you ?
§ ita § - Oct 28, 2003 8:22:16 am PST #1529 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You're assuming she didn't, aren't you?
Trudy Booth - Oct 28, 2003 8:55:44 am PST #1530 of 10000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It might explain some things if she had...
§ ita § - Oct 28, 2003 9:01:44 am PST #1531 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
My mother explains everything, though she'd like to deny it.
Dana - Oct 28, 2003 10:00:46 am PST #1532 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Now I'm gettin' the jones to rewatch my SN DVDs for, like, the fourth time in a row.
Been rewatching the Sam eps. Love Sam. Had to watch The Cut Man Cometh just for Danny angst. And the fact that the Cut Man cracks me up.
Skipping right over any scenes that deal with the Dating Plan.
DebetEsse - Oct 28, 2003 1:34:30 pm PST #1533 of 10000
Woe to the fucking wicked.
You speak true of Sam. I didn't know until I'd seen half the eps or so that Bill Macy and Felicity Huffman are married.
Also wordity word on the Dating Plan
helentm - Oct 28, 2003 2:12:42 pm PST #1534 of 10000
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
Anyway, I can see Abyss-Daniel as an extension of real traits he's always had, and showed more and more as the series went on. He always thinks he knows best. It's not unusual for him to choose abstract over personalized morality - look at Scorched Earth, where he's willing to advance the argument that maybe the folks on the ground should be left to die because the germ cells in the sky are the last of their kind, and gee, they're awfully *advanced*, aren't they?
It's really interesting cause I saw the thing with Scorched Earth as Jack tending to be pretty humanocentric, favouring the right to live for guys who look like him. And the protectiveness thing of course, the people on the ground were people he was responsible for.
You've made me think. My profound loathing of Abyss is much more a thing with regard to TV in general, I just get so tired of every super-powerful group or individual that can remotely be considered good, being all Prime Directivey, even when there are superpowerful bad guys intervening for all their worth. There are a ton of interesting things you can do with the super-powerful not evil or ambigiuos characters and every TV show seems to do the exact same thing.
But then Stargate actually has a pretty clear explanation of why these guys are freaked about intervening, so I could be being a little unfair.
§ ita § - Oct 28, 2003 2:22:40 pm PST #1535 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oooh. I saw Abyss at the start of my interest in SG1, and therefore understood nothing. I think it's on next week on local syndication.
I'm way curious now.
Katie M - Oct 28, 2003 2:31:37 pm PST #1536 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
It's really interesting cause I saw the thing with Scorched Earth as Jack tending to be pretty humanocentric, favouring the right to live for guys who look like him. And the protectiveness thing of course, the people on the ground were people he was responsible for.
Oh, sure. (There's a story called "Meeting of Minds" out there - I don't know if you read fanfic - that brings back the Gadmeer, and spends some time talking about that kind of we-like-mammals-best issue.) On the other hand, you know, they don't really exist anymore - they're little cells, not actual, living beings. So I tend to come down on Jack's side there.
There are a ton of interesting things you can do with the super-powerful not evil or ambigiuos characters
No, I get the frustration. On the other hand, you can't really tell interesting stories when you've got a real deus to appear ex machina at the end of every episode, so I tend to chalk that one up to storytelling necessity. (Kind of like the "Buffy cannot reveal her secret identity!" issue we've been discussing in the Buffy topic.)
I'm way curious now.
I'll be interested to see what you think. I had a very different reaction to it once I was familiar with the characters (particularly Jack).