See, the only thing that watching Angel watch Connor with his new family made me feel was disgust that his new family didn't make him cut his hair either.
I don't think that Spike's getting a free pass. Different people deal with things differently.
Liam was a good for nothing ass. William was a nice - if too attached to mother - boy. Angelus was a very, very nasty vampire. Spike was a killer, but we've never had any indication that he did anything nearly as horrible as what Angelus did to Dru (which I still feel is his most despicable act). Soul!Angel broods, doesn't mean that Soul!Spike has to.
Blizzard? There's a blizzard? Where?
And this is a show thread, as much as it may not seem so these days. I don't know that any of us are in the Angel thread now.
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Are the peanut butter cookies still your favourite? They are vw's favourite too.
See, the only thing that watching Angel watch Connor with his new family made me feel was disgust that his new family didn't make him cut his hair either.
Bummer. The writers missed you with the payoff for the entire Connor drama. I hated the whole Connor thing, pretty much every minute, but they did get me to feel for Angel with the big finish. Once again, he's the passerby in the great human pageant, this time even with his own flesh and blood, his nose up against the glass, as it has been figuratively all these long years.
I don't think that Spike's getting a free pass. Different people deal with things differently.
Not dealing doesn't count. Not having to have any consequences either. Getting to troop along in big brother's blazed trail for free credits still doesn't count.
Liam was a good for nothing ass. William was a nice - if too attached to mother - boy. Angelus was a very, very nasty vampire. Spike was a killer, but we've never had any indication that he did anything nearly as horrible as what Angelus did to Dru (which I still feel is his most despicable act)
Liam wasn't much different than many people I knew in college. It doesn't inform who Angelus was. Is Spike any less of a mass murderer because he was awkward with girls rather than a molester of the servants? We are expected to believe that Angelus is particularly inventive at evil vampire deeds. I don't believe he gets any particular extra points over Spike, except perhaps for being around longer, and therefore probably having a higher count. William the Bloody. Cut a terrible swath across Europe. Spike is the same monster Angelus is. Just because he is jaunty and plays the Pistols doesn't mean he shouldn't be suffering. Just because we have seen some of Angelus' deeds on camera doesn't mean Spike hasn't performed similar atrocities. He's killed what, thousands of people? Tens of thousands? Surely the Slayers weren't the only time he played with his food. Real people deal with horrific trauma encountering individual death in their lives. For Spike that's like, so last week. And he's in the queue for the Shanshu? Could there be a greater abomination?
And this is a show thread, as much as it may not seem so these days. I don't know that any of us are in the Angel thread now.
Ah whew. Glad to hear it. I missed the heyday of the taunt-worthy years, although not in spirit, for I was taunting at other boards. ;)
Errr, I'm not disputing that Spike has killed. I'm saying that Angelus displayed a greater level of cruelty - specifically citing his treatment of Dru as my main evidence of this.
As for the writers missing me with the pay off for the entire Connor arc ... I think you can blame the acting as well.
Last season the show was all about Wes for me. And I think that the acting, even moreso than the writing, was responsible for that.
The cookies are all gone and I am so very, very sad.
Even though peanutbutter WAS my favorite, the cherry almond has won my heart.
Cherry almond was good.
Peanut butter is possibly my least favourite cookie.
Really? And yet you make them so well!
They do turn out well, and I'm not at all tempted to eat the dough.
I love cookie dough.
