I can't say I'm huge on the Big Evil Law Firm controlled by the good guys thing, I gotta say, but it all depends on the payoff. If it all goes pear shaped in a suitably sudden and unexpected manner, then all right. If it all goes pear shaped in a gradual, predictably manner, then not all right. If it all fails to go pear shaped at all, then we all arm up and head over to Robert Miller and Frank Boyett's secret headquarters on a Joss rescuing mission.

Eh, I like Spike more than Angel. I just don't have any interest in what's happening to anyone.

Yeah, I knew you liked Spike. I haven't made a secret of my view that he outwore his welcome 2+ seasons ago on Buffy. Shiny blond object saves show from cancellation then eats said show (and all adjacent scenery)? Uh, well, I'm glad everyone got the additional year's work, I guess ...

Oh, see, I haven't much like what's been done with Spike. I just have issues with big, romantic, noble heros. Give me someone a little more gray anytime.

Give me someone a little more gray anytime.

Grayer than Angel? Oh. I guess you need darker pasts too?

t tries to think of one

Is Idi Amin still dead?

t wink

I did not watch Angel last night because, surprise, surprise, I fell asleep reading my book. I did remember to tape it for Brent so I'll watch it sometime this week.

Not a lot actually *happened*, Megan - this episode was mostly setup for a future arc. It was okay, and hey! I'm glad to see Lindsay back again , plus snarky Spike was fun, but I need to see where the whole thing is going.

I thought it was interesting in a what is Angel going to do when Spike tells him that a guy named Doyle who gets vision is sending him out to do good kind of way.

And, also, I enjoyed that Spike was snarky to his rescuees, because, really, who goes walking down a dark alley?

I mean, John, that Angel, as he has frequently been presented, is a little to straightforward for my taste in fictional men. My taste in real men is to asstudiously avoid baggage of any kind.

I missed the first half, but the Lindsey thing is a good hook, I'll agree. The rerun later on was S1 with the daywalker ring guest starring Spike, and I found it interesting that JM moves very differently now from then. There was almost a ... frig. Closest word I can grab is jaunty, though that's not it, but anyway side to it. Guy was bouncing around like he had flubber in his shoes, but it actually looked pretty cool. Interesting contrast.

I mean, John, that Angel, as he has frequently been presented, is a little to straightforward for my taste in fictional men. My taste in real men is to asstudiously avoid baggage of any kind.

Oh, wise choice, Elena, for sure. Didn't mean to imply otherwise, just snerking at the idea that the mass-murdering scourge of Europe in hair gel and a duster wasn't grey enough for you. I mean, they don't play up the dark or the avenger part enough, but this is the guy who locked in a basement full of lawyers to their certain death, who killed his own son, who set fire to Dru and Darla, who ... well, you probably get the idea that I think Angel is plenty dark and the fan reaction to SpikeySue irks me more than a little.

Having ranted all that :), I enjoyed the ep quite a bit, and what's more enjoyed Spike in it. Go figure. Weird tattoo boy was also fun, which is against type for me, considering I think he is the second-most over-hyped character ever to briefly grace the series.

And Angel was certainly interesting during most of those times you've mentioned. The whole 'champion' thing is what bores me.