I can't disagree with anything Matt said. Even as somebody who occasionally loves the friends into romance thing.ETA: ita, I do that, that's why I can't hate Brian for it. But I am older and have learned to keep it to myself for the most part.
Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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erikaj - Oct 12, 2004 4:31:55 pm PDT #9251 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Lyra Jane - Oct 12, 2004 5:26:24 pm PDT #9252 of 10001
Up with the sun
And there were hints that Brian, or someone like him, might have eventually been Angela's long-haul guy
JZ, I agree with you that Angela is more like Patti than she realizes -- that's one of the things I noticed when I rewatched the series last year. That said, i think the "or someone like him" in this sentence is key. She wouldn't have ended up with Brian because of her blind spot, because she had been that annoying kid across the street for so long, and also because I think it qwill be hard for her to forgive him for his role in the letter debacle at the end of the series.
But I do think someday, possibly a day long after college, they might sit down and say, "what if?".
DebetEsse - Oct 12, 2004 8:51:47 pm PDT #9253 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Catching up late, but I know that, for me, the timing becomes a big issue (in large part, though not entirely, due to where the characters are at different times). I agree that, in S7, B/X would have been very wrong, but at the top of S4, I think I could have gone for it. With neither of them fitting in their new worlds, and their previous SOs out of the picture (to a lesser, but still present extent, including Willow), I could see it being kinda messy and working really well, story-wise.
Kalshane - Oct 13, 2004 6:05:42 am PDT #9254 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I don't have a problem with the friends become lovers storyline, in theory, mostly because all of my own (few) relationships have been with women I was friends with first and continued to be friends with afterwards. However, it does need to be written well and not come out of nowhere.
I do agree that friends of different genders that are strictly platonic are fairly rare in fiction and they should be represented more often.
So B/X wouldn't have bothered me, though I would have rather seen Xander/Willow. But I realize that would have opened up a whole other can of worms in light of the dead lesbian cliche brouhaha.
erikaj - Oct 13, 2004 9:31:00 am PDT #9255 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
They were so sweet in s3. Aww.
Vortex - Oct 13, 2004 10:22:39 am PDT #9256 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I also would have enjoyed Xander being the gay one. Apparently Joss considered it.
Kalshane - Oct 13, 2004 12:48:52 pm PDT #9257 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
They were so sweet in s3. Aww.
They really were. And as much as I like Oz, I was disappointed that Willow chose to go back to him after her and Xander's little "affair" was revealed. On the other hand, I can see how the rebuilding the trust aspect of her and Oz's relationship and the "cheating is bad" message were probably better choices narratively.
Connie Neil - Oct 13, 2004 12:55:11 pm PDT #9258 of 10001
brillig
I also would have enjoyed Xander being the gay one
Amen
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2004 1:21:27 pm PDT #9259 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I used to think so as well, but after seeing how they handled Andrew it's probably for the best that they went with Willow.
§ ita § - Oct 13, 2004 1:25:12 pm PDT #9260 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You don't think Xander has more in common with Willow than with Andrew?