But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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DebetEsse - Oct 12, 2004 8:51:47 pm PDT #9253 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Catching up late, but I know that, for me, the timing becomes a big issue (in large part, though not entirely, due to where the characters are at different times). I agree that, in S7, B/X would have been very wrong, but at the top of S4, I think I could have gone for it. With neither of them fitting in their new worlds, and their previous SOs out of the picture (to a lesser, but still present extent, including Willow), I could see it being kinda messy and working really well, story-wise.


Kalshane - Oct 13, 2004 6:05:42 am PDT #9254 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't have a problem with the friends become lovers storyline, in theory, mostly because all of my own (few) relationships have been with women I was friends with first and continued to be friends with afterwards. However, it does need to be written well and not come out of nowhere.

I do agree that friends of different genders that are strictly platonic are fairly rare in fiction and they should be represented more often.

So B/X wouldn't have bothered me, though I would have rather seen Xander/Willow. But I realize that would have opened up a whole other can of worms in light of the dead lesbian cliche brouhaha.


erikaj - Oct 13, 2004 9:31:00 am PDT #9255 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

They were so sweet in s3. Aww.


Vortex - Oct 13, 2004 10:22:39 am PDT #9256 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I also would have enjoyed Xander being the gay one. Apparently Joss considered it.


Kalshane - Oct 13, 2004 12:48:52 pm PDT #9257 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

They were so sweet in s3. Aww.

They really were. And as much as I like Oz, I was disappointed that Willow chose to go back to him after her and Xander's little "affair" was revealed. On the other hand, I can see how the rebuilding the trust aspect of her and Oz's relationship and the "cheating is bad" message were probably better choices narratively.


Connie Neil - Oct 13, 2004 12:55:11 pm PDT #9258 of 10001
brillig

I also would have enjoyed Xander being the gay one

Amen


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2004 1:21:27 pm PDT #9259 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I used to think so as well, but after seeing how they handled Andrew it's probably for the best that they went with Willow.


§ ita § - Oct 13, 2004 1:25:12 pm PDT #9260 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't think Xander has more in common with Willow than with Andrew?


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 13, 2004 1:44:25 pm PDT #9261 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I hadn't considered it til just now, but it may well be that Willow and Andrew have more in common than either has with Xander.

I just don't think they handled Andrew and his crushes very well (i.e., in a way that didn't make me want to flee the room) and suspect that they would have had to dance around the issue so much that Xander would have ended up even more marginalized than he did.


§ ita § - Oct 13, 2004 1:46:49 pm PDT #9262 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figured that Andrew was played for straight up comic relief for a side of pathos -- and that none of the main characters would be treated similarly.