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Jim - Aug 13, 2004 4:04:08 am PDT #8752 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

It would be lovely - although I'd rather he did a Harry Potter movie - by film 6 they'll be the right age and book 6 badly needs a script doctor...


Jim - Aug 13, 2004 4:10:44 am PDT #8753 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

So I watched Him and Conversations With Dead People last night. Him is as gorgeously funny as I remember - the second half of slapstick insanity is of course genius, but the early build is such a sweet parody of the teen films that Buffy comes from. Oddly, like Selfless, CWDP was a letdown - it felt too static and talky, and the rhythm of cutting between characters was off. Looking back I'm glad Amber B didn't return, because that level of emotion would have unbalanced the episode. Shame they could't get the ubiquitous Eric Balfour to talk to Xander, although it might have taken some fast talking; "yeah, you get older in heaven, dude!".


Frankenbuddha - Aug 13, 2004 4:43:26 am PDT #8754 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Shame they could't get the ubiquitous Eric Balfour to talk to Xander, although it might have taken some fast talking; "yeah, you get older in heaven, dude!".

Or have him in vamp face the whole time.

Xander being left out of that episode is yet another potential storyline that they never followed up on.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 13, 2004 6:00:14 am PDT #8755 of 10001
What is even happening?

Shame they could't get the ubiquitous Eric Balfour to talk to Xander, although it might have taken some fast talking; "yeah, you get older in heaven, dude!".

Wouldn't he be in Hell?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 13, 2004 6:39:14 am PDT #8756 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

It would be lovely - although I'd rather he did a Harry Potter movie - by film 6 they'll be the right age

A fine plan...

and book 6 badly needs a script doctor...

... though (while I suspect you may be proved right), I'd love to know how you can tell this from a title alone. (If you were thinking of book five-- Order of the Pheonix-- yes, it needs a script doctor. And an editor. And they're nearly the right age, and Harry's certainly getting angry enough.)

t /off-topic

Sorry about that, I know my HP fandom is showing. adjusts costume

Yes, leaving Xander-- and, to my mind, Giles, and maybe some others-- out of CWDP was perhaps not the best choice. Trying to get it down to an hour, I imagine, because there was a lot of talking to do. It's still one of the highlights of the season for me, mainly for Holden.


DavidS - Aug 13, 2004 7:33:41 am PDT #8757 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wouldn't he be in Hell?

The soul of the vamped doesn't got to hell, does it? It goes off to wander in some nebulous ether, no?


-t - Aug 13, 2004 7:37:40 am PDT #8758 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Didn't Darla come back from hell?


Topic!Cindy - Aug 13, 2004 7:37:42 am PDT #8759 of 10001
What is even happening?

The soul of the vamped doesn't got to hell, does it? It goes off to wander in some nebulous ether, no?

This is the canon for while the vampire is still undead. I'm not certain (and canon probably isn't clear) about what happens if an evil vampire is staked. Darla would probably be the best clue, because she was killed while undead. But we also have to figure A:ts s5 Spike in there. That gets dicey, because in so many ways, he is such a singular case.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 13, 2004 8:00:26 am PDT #8760 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Didn't Darla come back from hell?

The scene where Darla gets turned seemed to indicate that SHE thought she was already going to hell, and given the ME propensity for vague-ing up heaven/hell vs. dimensions issues, that may have determined her final destination.


-t - Aug 13, 2004 8:05:08 am PDT #8761 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Spike and Angel both implied that they expected to go end up in hell eventually, too. Didn't they?

So if Jesse either thought he was going to heaven or was supposed to go to heaven before he got turned, his soul would have gone there when he was dusted?