Wouldn't he be in Hell?
The soul of the vamped doesn't got to hell, does it? It goes off to wander in some nebulous ether, no?
That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.
Anya ,'Bring On The Night'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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DavidS - Aug 13, 2004 7:33:41 am PDT #8757 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
-t - Aug 13, 2004 7:37:40 am PDT #8758 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Didn't Darla come back from hell?
Topic!Cindy - Aug 13, 2004 7:37:42 am PDT #8759 of 10001
What is even happening?
The soul of the vamped doesn't got to hell, does it? It goes off to wander in some nebulous ether, no?
This is the canon for while the vampire is still undead. I'm not certain (and canon probably isn't clear) about what happens if an evil vampire is staked. Darla would probably be the best clue, because she was killed while undead. But we also have to figure A:ts s5 Spike in there. That gets dicey, because in so many ways, he is such a singular case.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 13, 2004 8:00:26 am PDT #8760 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Didn't Darla come back from hell?
The scene where Darla gets turned seemed to indicate that SHE thought she was already going to hell, and given the ME propensity for vague-ing up heaven/hell vs. dimensions issues, that may have determined her final destination.
-t - Aug 13, 2004 8:05:08 am PDT #8761 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Spike and Angel both implied that they expected to go end up in hell eventually, too. Didn't they?
So if Jesse either thought he was going to heaven or was supposed to go to heaven before he got turned, his soul would have gone there when he was dusted?
brenda m - Aug 13, 2004 8:12:39 am PDT #8762 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Spike and Angel both implied that they expected to go end up in hell eventually, too. Didn't they?
Before they died, you mean? I could see that for Angel, not so much Spike.
I also don't see any reason to believe that they'd have any greater knowledge than any of us as to their final destination.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 13, 2004 8:39:21 am PDT #8763 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'd credit Angel with a bit more expertise on the subject, what with actually having gone to both some etheric limbo and to hell. But I suspect his certainty about damnation comes from the blood he's gotten on his hands since his soul was restored.
Darla going to hell wasn't such a shock, what with the renouncing God with her last breath and all. Though I do think it possible that her soul departed in a more upward direction at the end of "The Trial"—her Season 4 appearance would certainly seem to indicate that she ended up on the side of the angels.
-t - Aug 13, 2004 9:16:06 am PDT #8764 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
her Season 4 appearance would certainly seem to indicate that she ended up on the side of the angels.
Ooh, good point. I'd forgotten all about that.
Jeff Mejia - Aug 16, 2004 3:11:05 pm PDT #8765 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert
There is also the ambiguous line that Darla had in the episode "Darla":
Darla: "It wasn't my name when I was human. - The first time when I was human, I mean."
Lindsey: "What was your name?"
Darla: "Hmm - I don't remember. (Shakes her head) I'm not her, whoever she was.
I was Darla for so long - then I wasn't. I - I wasn't anything. I just stopped. - He killed me. I was done.
(Turns to look at Lindsey) Then you brought be back."
Lindsey: "Yes."
Darla steps closer: "What did you bring back, Lindsey? What am I? Did you bring back that girl, whose name I can't remember? - Or did you bring back something else? - The other thing."
It just occurs to me that the "I was done" was the way the Buffy described hersel in "After Life".
Vonnie K - Aug 17, 2004 9:27:09 am PDT #8766 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
OK, I just came back from Vividcon a couple of days ago and I'm feeling still high and emotional and stuff, and there was this completely heartbreaking early season Willow/Xander vid by pipsqueaky and I just found out it's online!!
t /incoherent gibbering
Ordinary: It's the first vid on the page. I defy anyone (who is not Elena) to watch this vid and not cry at the end. And smack Xander realllly hard.