Well, I imagine it would depend on which side zombified the ferrets.

My father's fellow ministers continue to draw from Buffy....

This weeks first lection should attract those of us who found joy and insight in Buffy the Vampire Slayer (more the TV series than the film). "Cease doing evil, learn to do good." Angel, Spike, Andrew, Willow (after going off the deep end and nearly destroying the world), Oz, even Buffy herself, and I'm sure other characters over the years made shifts from being evil to learning to be good. (Spike of course is the epitome of this - the key nemesis of Buffy's mission who eventually descends into the abyss to get a soul so he can love Buffy.)

Of course, when you read those two phrases from Isaiah, you think, "well, duh! 'Quit evil, learn good.' Hardly original with Isaiah." And yet, how much we still need to pay attention to the simplest of ideas.

This is from a listserv he's on where ministers toss around ideas relating to the weekly readings, among other things (I guess....).

Was Oz ever really evil? I mean, werewolf, sure, but he was never a particularly evil werewolf. He was pretty chilled. He did bad things when he was a wolf, but that was never a conscious choice.

I don't remember Oz going evil - I mean, he wasn't even evil in the Wishverse.

No, he wasn't evil, but he is a monster. And before he was found out/'fessed up to the gang, he was trying to handle the problem by himself. We don't know if he killed anyone (although there were maulings, etc., in Phases, weren't there). We know he could have.

He also backslid, before he left. He went out on the prowl with Veruca, and chances are it wasn't just a mating dance, but that they did some damage, as well.

They killed bunnies? ::shudder::

So, what you're saying is that Oz didn't go evil -- Oz is evil because he is a monster, the way that Anya and Angel are evil. (Or Anya was evil -- when she was a demon.)

So, what you're saying is that Oz didn't go evil -- Oz is evil because he is a monster,

no, I don't think so. The minister said "cease doing evil, learn to do good" Which seems to suggest that he's not saying that there is inherent evil, just evil deeds. or manifestation of inherent evil, I suppose

So, what you're saying is that Oz didn't go evil -- Oz is evil because he is a monster, the way that Anya and Angel are evil. (Or Anya was evil -- when she was a demon.)

No, I specifically said he is not evil. But he is a monster (or has one inside) and is capable of doing evil. Like Angel (but not so much Anya, she's a different sort of model), he has evil in him. Like Angel, it has to be triggered. But I think the series was pretty good at showing us this was true for most of our main characters. Buffy had the potential to do evil (that was (to me) the point of the Faith character). Giles ("The Dark Age" and "Helpless"), Willow (S6, especially), Dawn (the key could facilitate evil), even Xander (selfish spells in BB&B, and OMWF), and Tara. Anya's evil was a choice, which I guess is true for all of them, but it seemed to be a different sort of choice--more deliberate, maybe? I don't know.

If Oz's wolf nature is evil in its expression, doesn't it make sharks evil?