You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Bishop - May 12, 2004 7:09:05 am PDT #8074 of 10001
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I also have the XF in my queue. How far in the series is it worth to watch before it jumps the shark?

I'd say up to season seven, personally. But then you get stuck with a crap cliffhanger. Although I'm not sure if it ever gets much better after the post-S5 movie.


§ ita § - May 12, 2004 6:54:46 pm PDT #8075 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SMG talks about having been Buffy ... and some stuff about a guy named Freddie.


Bishop - May 13, 2004 5:56:17 am PDT #8076 of 10001
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A guy who opens doors for women is auto-"genuine"? What is this, 1686?


Lee - May 13, 2004 6:01:13 am PDT #8077 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I wouldn't say auto-genuine, but it is always nice to know someone is paying attention to someone other than themselves. For me, this is true for anyone, male, female, romantic interest or otherwise.


JohnSweden - May 13, 2004 6:14:20 am PDT #8078 of 10001
I can't even.

A guy who opens doors for women is auto-"genuine"? What is this, 1686?

What is this? Big Lie-Speak for something that stopped being expected practice in the last 25 years?

it is always nice to know someone is paying attention to someone other than themselves

This. Enough people seem incapable of sharing a sidewalk with the other humahhns, that politeness seems strange these days.


Polter-Cow - May 13, 2004 6:15:23 am PDT #8079 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Enough people seem incapable of sharing a sidewalk with the other humahhns, that politeness seems strange these days.

Yes. It is pointless, and annoying.

(I didn't mean politeness, but the lack thereof.)


Lee - May 13, 2004 6:17:34 am PDT #8080 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Never mind, P-C clarified.


Bishop - May 13, 2004 6:20:27 am PDT #8081 of 10001
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What is this? Big Lie-Speak for something that stopped being expected practice in the last 25 years?

I don't even know what that means.

But I'll take my confusion as a point to clarify: When you're walking through a door, you hold the door open for the person behind you, whatever... great.

But when you get in a situation like opening the car door for someone... which necessitates jumping out of your side of the car and jogging around or running up to the car and opening it... it seems to me we're regressing. Where's the self-independence and the advances of the femininist movement over past decades? It's all powdered wigs and carriages, suddenly. What up.

And I complain because I've seen this attitude before in a much smarmier way than SMG was putting it. I.E. the "I expect people to open doors for me" mentality. Yes, and I expect you to have arms.


§ ita § - May 13, 2004 6:54:24 am PDT #8082 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it is always nice to know someone is paying attention to someone other than themselves. For me, this is true for anyone, male, female, romantic interest or otherwise.

The number of times I've had to either deal with feeling like I'm holding up the door-opener, or sprint to make sure I don't, I don't see an automatic upside.

If they're near and I'm going to have difficulty with the door -- much appreciated. As is checking to make sure the timing of not holding it open for me doesn't mean it's shutting right in my face.


Lee - May 13, 2004 6:57:11 am PDT #8083 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Yep, ita, I was assuming that you were walking with, or near someone. I don't see the point if someone is far enough away that the door won't hit them, unless their hands are full.